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[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I'd like to point out a few things in this legal logic bomb here. I'm not a lawyer either but...

  • The administration declared being illegal a crime even though it is a civil matter so they can create this illegal loophole.
  • The article states that that removal of citizenship for criminal charges would allow trial by jury.
  • The current administration is making denaturalization go through civil court to strip defendants of any right to a trial by jury or lawyers if they can't afford one.

However, if all defendants tried in civil court solely on the charge of being here illegally, then they are not a criminal for being illegal by their own definition because they are in civil court. Even if they are being busted for a crime other than being illegal, they still have to go through the criminal court process for denaturalization which is by a trial with jury. I'm going insane trying to follow this cluster fuck of logic. --