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Ex-Superman Dean Cain Says James Gunn Made a ‘Mistake’ Calling Superman an ‘Immigrant’ and ‘It’s Going to Hurt’ the Box Office: ‘How Woke Is Hollywood Going to Make This Character?’ (variety.com)

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[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Depends on what comics. From what i read in some comic series he was actually birthed on earth and was able to run for president. While in other comic series he came as a baby and was adopted ( which, if unknown origins, means us citizenship iirc ).

Edit: not sure why im getting downvoted. I said what is true, that in most comics he's a baby that came from krypton, and due to us laws was basically adopted as a us citizen. Doesnt make him less of an immigrant...

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That is only the story in a couple of comics of the 90's.

Since its conception in the 30's, Superman has always been an illegal immigrant from Krypton.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world -3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Correct indeed. Not sure why im getting downvoted though.
He was an immigrant in most comics, yes. But not illegal lol

[–] T156@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Would he not be considered an illegal alien? It's not like he was sent to the US under standard procedures. He was basically dumped at a US homestead.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, and I'm sure that any of the paperwork that was involved in getting him a SSN or birth certificate must have involved some form of fraud in the process. Someone had to tell a lie at some point.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I don't think they adopted him as in a legal process, I think they just pretended that he was their biological son. You can't just go to the court and be like "We found a baby, can we keep it?". They could have surrendered the infant to law enforcement and then petitioned to adopt it, but afaik this never happened the Comics, Movies or TV Shows (including the one Dean Cain was on). So while it's true that he was a US citizen, it was because the Kent's lied about his origin.

From what i read in some comic series he was actually birthed on earth and was able to run for president.

If you are referring to Kalel/ Calvin Ellis from Earth 23, he wasn't born on Earth either. He was born on Krypton like the other Supermen.

The point that GaMEChld and James Gunn are making is that even if Kal-El was made a legal citizen he is still very much an immigrant (and technically an illegal Alien) and none of that matters one single bit. Being born on U.S. Soil to American parents doesn't make you a good citizen and being born somewhere else doesn't make you a bad one.