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Not even a single full day into operation, and the new Grok 4 is hurling racist conspiracy theories at users.

According to Elon Musk, no later than next week, it will be added to Tesla vehicles.

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[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Literally why would anyone want that. Even racist elon musk lovers. Why would anyone want their car to have an LLM.

[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My guess is that some hardcore Musk followers must be very lonely at this point, so much so that they prefer talking to chatbots.

[–] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

In general, with tools these LLMs have the ability to bring the next generation of Alexa / HomePod like devices (though I am not sure Amazon has delivered on that vision yet)

I like the idea of running a Llama based "Assistant" that would not require all my data leaving my house which could also be accomplished with these features.

In my car though... just use my fucking phone and get out of my way

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

(Getting downvoted... OK :) My definition of "mildly interesting" feature may be unpopular.)

They actually do mildly interesting things, and I can see it as a vector to eventually do ACTUALLY useful things. VW and Mercedes both use ChatGPT to power this feature for now.

Plus, the Chinese ones get to wear funny hats! Here is one dressed up as

collapsed inline mediamy favorite Mario brother
.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm not going to downvote you just because we don't share the same perspective, that's dumb. I hope you're having a good day :)

I don't want to talk to my car though. I see voice recognition as potentially useful for hands free control, which does have meaningful value, but I don't need an LLM or any form of generative ai for that

I don't want to talk to the combined informational model of twitter while driving my car. I don't want to talk to the combined informational model of the rest of the internet either.

Asking for weather or directions or whatever, sure, but that doesn't need an LLM, and certainly doesn't benefit from grok specifically

The hat is very cute though.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I respect your take 😊

Hope you have a lovely day my friend :)

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Lol 😊

The pic doesnt seem to work for me, but I can see the caption

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That would be fine if we could trust businesses, but... :gestures at the last half-millennium:

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly cars could just run local LLMs. It wouldn't be that expensive to implement in a car which already has a lot of computer hardware

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Yeah but frankly I still wouldn't trust it

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Are they intended as a conversationalist?

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 2 points 22 hours ago

That's the rub. Sometimes you don't know the utility of a tool until you build it. The future is weird that way.

Who would have thought WHAT people would chat with ChatGPT about? Like, romance? WTF? That's strange, call it emergent behavior, the final utility was unexpected.

In my head, I anticipate the tool going down the track of voice assistants from the pre-AI phase, so just like Alexa for directions or simple searches, but local to the car. Maybe unintended utilities will arise? If it can do directions and music and web searches, I guess, we don't really know what other utilities drivers will find for it yet?

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

What do you mean? Isn't it a match made in ~~heaven~~ hell ? Getting praisal of Adolf Hitler and receiving antisemitic comments while driving a sawasticar /s