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[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 253 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I think it's really weird that inclusion is political.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 105 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, duh. By saying "All are Welcome Here", we are excluding people who want to exclude people. And they are the ones in charge right now. So simply saying "everyone is welcome" is now subversive, against Presidential policy, and anti-American.

Your citizenship is hereby revoked, ICE will be here soon to ship you to ~~Gitmo~~ ~~CECOT~~ ~~South Sudan~~ Alligator Auschwitz

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That actually isn't weird at all. People treat "politics" as an epithet for "controversial politics", but in reality, almost everything in society is political – relating to power structures, the distribution of status and resources, and how those factors are determined. What you're getting at, of course, is that Republicans have shifted the Overton window so disgustingly far to the right that "everyone is welcome" in a classroom is treated as a controversial ideology.

We're constantly conditioned to think of the status quo as apolitical in nature (it's just "normal" and the people who want to change it for better or worse are "the politicals"), but it is and always has been, and it's why we've needed so desperately these past several decades to remain politically engaged to protect what we want and to change what we don't. Now? Who knows, but we still need to try.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think you mean that it is weird that inclusion is controversial.

To me, inclusion is the foundation of politics. It is the uniting idea that people with no blood relation - strangers - can come together to build something that benefits all.

Trump and his gang want to move on from politics. They despise democracy and disdain a system that benefits anyone who isn't part of their exclusive circle. And for the record, their circle does not include Trump supporters - the maga-hat wearing rubes are just the tools that Trump is using to monopolize wealth and power for his immediate friends and family.

When Trump has achieved what he wants, there will be no more politics in the USA. There will only be the Great Leader and those who exist to serve him.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It always seems odd to me that "politics" is often conflated with "nationalism" or just plain government. That's not really what politics is, politics is power plays and public relations. It's more marketing than it is governance.

Inclusion can be a part of politics, in the same way it's part of companies advertising during pride month... but it's not the foundation of it.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am sorry, but you are incorrect. The word politics comes from polity, meaning a group of people who share an identity. When you say that politics is "power plays and public relations," you are repeating propaganda that was designed to disenfranchise people. Politics is about working on a shared project: building a good society. Bad actors have infiltrated politics, but they don't get to replace the basic meaning of the word.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

That make sense for why the confusion is there. But... "bad actors" or not, the well is poisoned. You don't keep drinking from a poisoned well just because you think it shouldn't be. Especially when there are other wells that are readily available. If anything, being able to distinguish between the two is more helpful than trying to keep waters that are already irrevocably muddied just because archaically they were not.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

The part most of these stories leave out is that the signs are sold by the local democratic party. It would be interesting to see the outcome for a sign with the same message but without that baggage.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 0 points 2 days ago

It isn’t. Fascists claim that it is so they can suppress it. It’s as simple as that.