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Israel’s war in Gaza is chipping away at so much of what we – in the United States but also internationally – had agreed upon as acceptable, from the rules governing our freedom of speech to the very laws of armed conflict. It seems no exaggeration to say that the foundation of the international order of the last 77 years is threatened by this change in the obligations governing our legal and political responsibilities to each other.

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[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 day ago (32 children)

Given that the Zionist movement was founded decades before the Nazi movement, I would say Nazis are the descendants.

[–] madlian@lemmy.cafe -3 points 1 day ago (27 children)

Nazis had nothing to do with the Jewish people establishing a homeland in Palestine. Joining those two groups is ridiculous and rude to Jewish people.

The Jewish people began by buying the land legally in the late 1800s as a way to escape persecution. That pissed off the local Arabs (understandably) and both of them started arguing—which was not usually violent until 1920-30ish.

That said, after it became a British Mandate (1917), Israel got a ton of international support. And obviously after WWII, they got whatever they wanted…. Which, was choosing violence.

A lot of the reason the Arabs got little support was because they were fragmented, with no leadership. Each of their revolts were seen as a threat and not a legitimate push back against colonization. And, after the Ottoman Empire fell, England and France “stole” that land, so revolts were more or less terrorism (in their eyes, of course).

[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 15 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Nazis had nothing to do with the Jewish people establishing a homeland in Palestine

They actually had a huge amount to do with the creation of Isreal, actively encouraging and facilitating the movement of German Jews there.

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