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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Not for the first time in American history, but hopefully for the last time.

People give me shit for getting hung up on specifics, but remember that the majority of Germans really didn't know what was going on at the camps till the very end of the war when they were shown film evidence of camps being liberated.

The literal card carrying nazis tried to hide it better than what is happening now, when members of the party openly "joke" about feeding 65 million (the number of Hispanics, not immigrants even if legal were included) to alligators, there is no logical reason to believe they're being honest about what is really happening there.

Alligators have stomach acid strong enough to dissolve bone, it takes a while (months?) but eventually there will be no trace of a body. They could literally be tossing them in a swamp to dispose of bodies and because of how shadowy arrests have been, I doubt they're keeping good records of inmates.

People are going to disappear

[–] TauZero@mander.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

but hopefully for the last time

That's what they said last time. "Never again" etc.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Hey sure, "didn't know" but that's a low bar. How about "could easily have guessed" as the basic standard for morality when death camps are involved?

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

This is also pretty much incorrect. They might not have known specifics or scale necessarily, but if you read interviews RIGHT AFTER the war, pretty much everybody in German territory at least knew someone who had been dragged off to a camp, at gunpoint usually, and their house and possessions put up for auction literally within a week. After two or three of these, you get the message.

They knew, by and large, that these people were not coming back. These concentration camps were outside Germany, but many, if not most, Germans figured it out for themselves. Many were simply willing to put it aside because Depression Weimar was like Revolutionary France, and people were willing to take the first strongman that came across and said "hey I KNOW how we need to fix this, and it starts with THOSE GUYS whose fault it all is".

The film evidence was for the core of the core of the empire - Berlin, Munich, etc, where your average citizen might've been afforded protection from the watching the nice Goldschmidt family marched out of their house, and for posterity so people couldn't do what people in the US were already trying to do with the Native American genocide and chattel slavery.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Have you seen The Zone of Interest?

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 0 points 4 hours ago

I think someone needs to dump tons of this in the swamp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycoplasma_alligatoris?wprov=sfla1