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Seems to be mainly about property owners not getting enough rent.
I'm not sure you have understood that people don't want to profit from their data, they want to avoid corporations stealing their private texts and pictures to train models they'll profit from.
Is this some weak attempt at gaslighting? If you want to make a career out of this, you really need to up your game. I mean, can you imagine some think tank going: Landlords don't want to profit from those apartments, they just want to avoid people squatting in them for free.
Your problem is that the landlord analogy just doesn't suit this situation.
Rent seeking is long-established economic jargon. It doesn't necessarily imply a landlord analogy. A landlord may not be extracting an economic rent within that definition.
The point is rent-seeking, not an analogy to landlords.
Precisely, and rent-seeking is what's not happening here, as nobody is looking to profit. People are only looking to keep their private information private.
Your gaslighting game is shit. Like Copyright lawsuits aren't half the news being cheered by AI haters. Not a single privacy lawsuit in sight. How stupid do you think people are?
Assuming you're right, it's still not rent-seeking. If I believe that AI companies should be made liable for breaking copyright, I'm not personally receiving any monetary benefit. Where's my rent?
It's about principle. It's unfair that a company can steal data and profit from it. Simple as that.
Yes, I'm sure very few AI haters will be getting any rent personally. They are supporting rent-seeking by others. I'm sure many do so out of "principle", or as it would be more commonly phrased, out of ideological dogmatism. I'm a left/liberal guy. I want a society that works for everybody.
A society that works for everybody is a fair society. Stealing intellectual property and user confidential data is not fair.
And some people will say that a fair society should give back to the King what those revolutionaries stole by creating republics everywhere. You think of your ideology as the one true definition of fairness, justice, and whatever. That's just ordinary dogmatism.
As far as I'm concerned, society should be ordered to fulfill everyone's material needs; food, shelter, health care, and such things. Otherwise, people should not be interfered with. They should be free to make the best of life. That is simply incompatible with rent-seeking.