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[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We need to increase the military budget. That isn't Conservative, it is a reality.

What tax cuts are you referring to? I have only heard of the tax cut for middle class, and that was supported by the NDP from what I know.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We don't need to increase the military budget to 5% of GDP, a greater share than the US currently spends on it's military by 1.6%. That's insane and will certainly mean cuts to services like health care.

Taxes cut under this government:

  1. Consumer carbon tax

  2. Capital gains tax increase

  3. Digital Services Tax

Carney cuts taxes like he won as leader of the CPC.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you know how much of that military spending will go to fixing problems that are decades old?

[–] grte@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That doesn't justify spending more as a percentage of our GDP on the military than the USA who spends more than the next 10 or something states combined. I'm not giving up nationalized health care because Donald fucking Trump wants to shake down NATO and make Canada spend 30% of it's national budget on American arms.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cool.

With that rant you have shown tou don't understand how badly our military has been neglected.

Your mindset only works if the US is actually friendly.

And, we have been shopping elsewhere for new military equipment.

Keep up.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 day ago

30% of the budget. Certainly the end of nationalized health care. That's worth it to you?

And if you think the US won't engage in the sorts of tactics it currently is engaging in to demand we spend more of our military budget on them then you are mistaken.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not going to suggest numbers, but think you absolutely need to invest more in defense against states with far right leanings, like the USA. The good news is taxing the ultrawealthy into oblivion can provide all necessary services.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Okay, but Carney is not going to tax the ultra wealthy. His track record so far is cutting taxes, including one targeting the wealthy specifically. People talk about raising military spending without considering that that money is going to have to come at the expense of something else. We talk about the cost in terms of percentage of GDP because it makes a nice small non-scary percentage like 5%. But that represents just shy of a third of the national budget, over double what we just recently raised our spending to. That money is not going to come from new taxes on the wealthy, it's going to come from cuts to services. Health care being the meatiest place to make those cuts.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 day ago

I'm not disputing any of that. Don't follow the USA example anymore, is all I'm saying.