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[–] WhereGrapesMayRule@lemmy.world 155 points 3 days ago (48 children)

Get your own gateway. Don't rent theirs.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (26 children)

You can buy cable modems cheap, too. No reason to use their crap at all.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (24 children)

"cheap" is a relative term.

Nobody should be buying a DOCSIS 3.0 modem these days. They are obsolete and for some reason still being sold.

A decent DOCSIS 3.1 modem is at least $200. A Next Gen like S34 is at least $220. At least at the big blue big box store. And then you have to get your own wifi.

(However, that big blue store also will give you a 15% discount on any networking purchase if you recycle an old network device...I traded in an old modem but you should be able to find a switch or router at a thrift store and still come out ahead)

It pays for itself pretty quick (by not paying rental fees), but that doesn't necessarily make it cheap.

I absolutely prefer using my own equipment, and do...but it's also worth mentioning that in many markets, Xfinity removed data caps if you have a rented modem.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

If a DOCSIS 3.0 modem still can't be saturated by the tier of internet someone is paying for, what advantage would 3.1 have?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Not buying another modem when the ISP quietly upgrades the CMTS and makes more speed available in your neighborhood.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If your provider has implemented it (Comcast is the only one i know of in north america) then Active Queue Management is a huge quality of life improvement that you won't know you were missing unless you already had a router that implements queue management. https://www.cablelabs.com/blog/how-docsis-3-1-reduces-latency-with-active-queue-management

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah I recently switched from cable to fiber (finally available), and prior I was using an old as fuck modem/router that capped at 500Mbps. My internet at fastest was 380. I rarely transfer files over the network, so figured why bother? (I did have Gen1 Google Mesh though to cover dead spots). I had a bit of a shopping splurge when I got fiber. Nothing crazy, just an upgraded mesh and a switch (Why the fuck does Frontier provide an ONT with 8 ethernet ports but only one is active?)

[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

At least in my case, my DOC IS 3.0 modem was having connectivity issues. My neighbor in another apartment had similar issues: dropped connections, slower than expected speeds, etc. Switching to DOCSIS 3.0 modems solved the problem. I guess Comcast upgraded their hardware and it wasn't compatible with my modem anymore

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