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[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 41 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

...but they won’t work against a specific candidate either.

Absolutely demonstrably untrue.

They will definitely work against specific candidates.

They will change rules and ask super-delegates to ignore voters and choose their preferred candidate, the news networks most closely aligned with the DNC's goals will literally put a camera in front of an empty mic stand for 40 mins rather than show the candidate they don't want. They will compare that candidate winning states during the primary literally to Hitler saying it's like "the fall of Paris" or compare the supporters of the guy whose own extended family was murdered in the Holocaust to "brownshirts.".

They will support anti-choice Ds over progressives in primaries while claiming neutrality.

The DNC isn't representative of its constituents. They are the rich's secondary defense against "the left" (meaning anything even slightly to the left of 1990s Clinton policies).

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Buddy...

This is like if in June 2021 you stared blaming Biden for the shit trump did when he was president...

The DNC is essentially ~400 people that get together to vote for a chair every four years. And if a Dem was elected president they just all vote for who the president suggests. (Note: Obama never nominated one)

So the people who rigged 2016 could have been replaced, and Donna Brazile's brief time gave us valuable insights into how fucked things were.

But the voting members went neoliberals again, there wasn't a good option running.

2020 Biden won, and picked the same type of chair who handed him the primary.

2024 we didn't get a primary, and New Hampshire's delegates were stolen, something I can never forgive as a Democrat.

But in February the voting members (who have slowly been getting replaced, literally not all the same people) choose a state chair who took a purple state, ran fair primaries for a decade, and turned it into a progressive stronghold.

"The DNC" is not a monolith, it's not some great institute of life long beurocrats.

Change is possible.

I've spent literally 30 years bitching about the DNC (and yes, I still held my nose and voted D in generals once I was 18). I understand how it works.

The chair runs the show and is final call on literally everything.

So expect the DNC to be run exactly like the last decade of the Minnesota party was.

Blaming current DNC for the faults of the last is as dumb as blaming 2021 Biden for what 2016-2020 trump did....

Just because they're both at the head of the same office.

Quick edit:

Also, Martin just ran out two of those problematic superdelegates who had been fucking shit up. Not only that, they had been high ranking members of the committee that has been running the sh primaries.

Shit is getting better.

Just don't expect Martin to throw the trash on the front yard and dont expect billionaire owned media to put anything this new DNC does in a good light. If a progressive wins in 2028 we'd see an fdr style movement again.

The billionaires don't want that. And they don't mind lying.

And sorry this is a wall of text, but it's important people understand how optimistic we should be right now.

[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Thank you for offering more context to help folk understand things are improving. I don’t mean to sound doom and gloom. It’s great to hear things are getting better.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 7 points 23 hours ago

I come from a town where most of the Democrats that end up running are classical liberal Catholics, and break with the party on abortion only.

Because of that, the only candidates that end up making it past the primaries are some of the lamest, idiotic, or occasionally actual criminal jackass candidates you can imagine.

The DNC has basically handed unicameral seats, the national congressional seat (the only one in the state that's actually contested) and the mayoral seat to conservatives for 30 years.

When popular candidates do make it past the primary and refuse to be pro choice, they magically see their national funding dry up.

To be clear, Omaha is at the very edge of the Bible belt, this is a Catholic town. Most Democrats here are Catholic. These are people who are fervently anti conservative, anti trump. These are the majority of the blue dot voters.

I'm not saying this is rational, or good. I'm not saying that the DNC should come around on banning abortion. I am saying that by enforcing national policy on down ballot races, they're shooting themselves in the foot in regions that would otherwise reliably support them.