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RUMOR: Sony Pictures Has Paused All Its SPIDER-MAN Spin-offs - Including One Revolving Around Knull (comicbookmovie.com)
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[–] zabadoh@ani.social 11 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Superhero movie fatigue is real, and Sony's mediocre Spiderman villain spinoffs didn't help.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I'd argue that Sony was the reason for a lot of the superhero fatigue. The objectively worst MCU movie, QuantumMania, was still much better than Morbius, Kraven, and Madame Web. Some of the "bad" movies, like Eternals, Marvels, Love and Thunder, Multiverse of Madness, Black Widow, received disproportionately more hate than they deserved. As a lineup, it's all very mediocre, but they were spread out over several years. For fans, they were fun (flawed) excursions into each of those character stories. For non-fans, they were yet another opportunity to gleefully shit on superhero movies to drive engagement or to push a political agenda or just because they think superheroes are the reason we don't get auteur indie films anymore.

Eternals had too many characters and generic monster blobs. But the characters were nuanced and complex, and the plot wasn't nearly as incoherent as critics said.

They also had a gay hero and a disabled hero, and they gender-swapped two of the male heroes. Certain people didn't like that.

The Marvels had a boring villain and absurdly imbalanced stakes during the obliteration of two different plants and their native species. Also, a musical contrivance that I enjoyed more than most normal people.

They also had all female heroes, a female antagonist, and the first Muslim hero in films. Certain people didn't like that.

Look, if you line 'em all up in a row, it's basically the food court at the mall. There's a wide variety of options, maybe one or two that are good, the rest are also there, and some bigots are grumbling about weird people who aren't like them. That's post-Engame MCU. Sony is like that kiosk near the court that definitely isn't part of the food court, and they definitely don't have the requisite plumbing to have a handwashing sink. Their poor hygiene practices have drawn bugs and rats, and they have a big sign that says that napkins and condiments are only for their customers.

Getting rid of Sony doesn't make Marvel better, but it does reduce a lot of the strain on the viewing public.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Marvels had a boring villain and absurdly imbalanced stakes during the obliteration of two different plants and their native species. Also, a musical contrivance that I enjoyed more than most normal people.

I enjoyed the Ms Marvel TV show for what it was, and the Kamala Khan character (and actor) getting a big screen appearance I thought was a good path. What irked me about the movie was that Ms Marvel was prevented from using her powers for 85% of the movie, only really being able to have a good showing in the final act. Further, we were told the MacGuffin bangle that let her amplify her powers from the TV show would give her godlike powers if she ever got the other one. Well she got the other one and it was barely a bump up.

There was also the contrived plot point about one race stealing air and water from other inhabited planets. Like, there are millions of other planets with air and water. Why doesn't Captain Marvel simply find one and help the antagonists pull air and water from those leaving the inhabited planets alone?

It wasn't the worst comic book movie I've seen though. I gave up watching Black Adam halfway through shortly after the "heroes" showed up and wanted to put the beatdown on the one entity pushing back against the oppressive mafia gang.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm hoping we get more Ms. Marvel where she explored the full strength of the Nega Bands.

And the Kree were clearly targeting planets that didn't just have air and water, they were trying to hurt Captain Marvel. The movie didn't do a great job at expanding on the idea, but Dar-Benn (had to look that up) was on a revenge mission. I don't know if it was the actress or the writing, but she was just so forgettable that it was hard to keep track of her motivations. But first she went after the Skrulls, then the planet where Captain Marvel's husband lived, then the Earth. The fact that she killed millions of Skrull refugees and billions of singing people didn't seem to bother anyone too much.

But even factoring in all of those problems, it's nothing as bad as Shazam 2 or fucking Madame Web, I just cannot get past how shitty that god-damned movie was. There wasn't one single redeeming quality about the movie. Black Adam at least gave us a decent Doctor Fate. Flash bright back Keaton for Batman. Sure, those characters

Flash and Black Adam SpoilersNeither movie is worth your time, and also those characters died.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It should be pointed out that the dull boring villain in that movie was pulling resources from those planets specifically to hurt Captain Marvel. So just finding another planet wouldn't really have worked as the goal was to cause her anguish and pain. It was Revenge.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I know I'm expecting too much from a marvel movie, but geopolitically, destroying entire other civilizations simply for revenge is bad policy.

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