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Mike German, an ex-FBI agent, said immigration agents hiding their identities ‘highlights the illegitimacy of actions’

Some wear balaclavas. Some wear neck gators, sunglasses and hats. Some wear masks and casual clothes.

Across the country, armed federal immigration officers have increasingly hidden their identities while carrying out immigration raids, arresting protesters and roughing up prominent Democratic critics.

It’s a trend that has sparked alarm among civil rights and law enforcement experts alike.

Mike German, a former FBI agent, said officers’ widespread use of masks was unprecedented in US law enforcement and a sign of a rapidly eroding democracy. “Masking symbolizes the drift of law enforcement away from democratic controls,” he said.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 23 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

At this point, my first reaction to seeing anyone in law enforcement at any level is they are a criminal thugs that cannot be trusted, should be undermined at every opportunity, insulted relentlessly, and if necessary, worse. I know there are some good cops, and not everything they do is bad, but goddamn they do they suck in general.

[–] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 23 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

I heard this one recently: Take 100 gallons of dirty sewage water and add 1 gallon of clean water. What do you have? It's not 101 clean gallons of water or even 100 gallons dirty and 1 clean anymore..

You now have 101 gallons of dirty fucking sewage water.

ACAB (and soon to be ACAN ~ All Cops Are Nazis)

[–] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 24 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Works the other way too.

If I take 100 Gallons of clean water and dump a gallon of sewage into it, would you pour yourself a glass?

[–] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 13 points 9 hours ago

One bad apple spoils the bunch. Good point!

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I get what you are saying, but that doesn't help the 1 good cop that is actually trying to do their job correctly.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

The challenge today is that their legal job may now require them to do things that are constitutionally questionable and ethically repugnant. So even if they’re good people and upstanding citizens, they may be required to, at any point in their day, to choose between doing the right thing and losing their job.

They only have to choose wrong once to no longer be the “good cop”.

Now, because of the way policing works in the US, it may be possible to have an intrinsically good police department. At least until a state or federal agency rolls into town and demands they do something they wouldn’t otherwise do; then they become complicit.

After all… in any other organized gang, there can be good people, but they’re still going to be found guilty of gang activity due to supporting the others.

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org -4 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

excuse me, but that is shit logic.

people are indivisible, which makes them different from a gallon of water.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 4 points 3 hours ago

As human beings, our interests, philosophies, politics, etc, yes.

As workers in a job, not so much. The analogy works in that scenario. We all conform, to varying degrees, to the groups that we join. Especially when that group is your full time employ, where you spend most of your time and gain most of your money.

There's a HBO show called The Wire that is amazing, and I would recommend to anyone to watch, but particularly to yourself because "Simon has said that despite its framing as a crime drama, the show is "really about the American city, and about how we live together. It's about how institutions have an effect on individuals. Whether one is a cop, a longshoreman, a drug dealer, a politician, a judge or a lawyer, all are ultimately compromised and must contend with whatever institution to which they are committed."[5]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wire

Trailer: https://youtu.be/1S5khOZ1wBs

Warning: it is slow paced, it's more like reading a book on your screen than watching a traditional TV show, but it's worth it

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

You put a good person in a shit department and they leave or become shit themselves ; either way, they whole group is still shit.

Humans aren't a gallon of water, but you're naive if you think we're not influence-able just the same.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Doesn't matter all cops are bad. Yes there might be a "good" cool but since they can't or won't do anything about the bad one they're bad. And the shitty thing is if someone tries to eat out a bad cop they are the ones who get take the shit. So yes all cops are bad.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago

Would you think the same in another country? In Canada? Or in The Netherlands?