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[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Take a group of people who grew up without the need for any technical skills, put them in a car that is wildly complex and this is what you get.

I'm no fan of overcomplicated stuff, but if you own something like this, it is your problem to educate yourself on how it works and how to deal with issues and failures or get used to being bent over any time you have to pay an adult to rescue you.

Also, I don't own a Tesla, but I looked it up and there should be multiple warnings on the display about a failing 12v battery as well as messages via the app. I'm going to guess that they were ignored in this case.

Of course, the owner "still loves the car!" to further drive home the fact that he's a moron.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 20 points 1 day ago

I'm not disagreeing with anything you say but i consider this a design fail as well.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Take a group of people who grew up without the need for any technical skills, put them in a car that is wildly complex and this is what you get.

I'm going to guess you work in some form of tech. If not, perhaps you should seek a career change because techbros love your attitude.

Me? I'm the diametric opposite. My devices work for me, not the other way around. If they fail at this, they get trashed.

Automobiles have had their UX smoothed out and nigh-perfected. It takes an arrogant tech twat to think that they know more than every design engineer who lived over the past century.

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

You dont have to like my attitude, but when your car is a computer with wheels, I'm not wrong about the need for technical abilities.

However, most people have zero clue how a 10 year old gas car works. I stand behind my assertion that people need to know how their shit works or learn to live with the fact that they've abdicated the responsibility to take care of themselves and will pay a grown up to do it for them.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think a big part of the issue is that we really need to both update drivers ed requirements and enforce drivers ed attached to the transition from a certain year of car to a new one.

It’s wild to me that there’s no sit down conversation or even lesson with the purchase of a new car with the dozens of features they have. A lot of those features directly impact safety and several others can be a distraction.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Brand-new cars do come with owner's manuals, just like damn near everything else one buys. I suspect most buyers never read them though.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Most people will spend an hour a day or more, 7 days a week in their car. Even at a perfect 60 mph average, you’re looking at over 150 hours for every 10,000 miles. Maybe an hour or so of training to get you familiar with the car before you’re on the road learning how these features work for the first time and potentially endangering others isn’t a half-bad idea?

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Never said it was a bad idea. Just wanted to point out that even without any kind of vehicle-specific training, they do still come with a means for the buyers to educate themselves.

Regardless though, most cars aren't that much different from one another. The skills you learn in driver's education should be sufficient for most to operate the vehicle with minimal time spent familiarizing yourself with any particular vehicle. For whatever reason, Tesla felt the need to forego decades of standardization and do their own thing. You can see how well that's working out with their FSD disasters, people getting trapped inside them, and just the overall shoddy craftsmanship.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago

Makes sense. It how it was for our Honda purchase. They had a guy who's job it was to sit with you in the car for 40 minutes or so, and he went through every single function of the entire car.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 1 points 21 hours ago

Even if I had never read the manual of my car. If I get a warning - as this thread suggests should, it have been there - I make sure to check the manual then and probably drive to a garage.