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Interesting discussion, I kind of understand both of your stances.
One stance is driven by fear of the slippery slope and the frog not noticing being boiled until it's too late. The fear of normalizing fascist parties and views until they dominate, which is a fully rational fear given existing history.
The other stance is driven by fear of ever increasing polarization and hostility, which is another slippery slope, to fragmentation of society into parts that live in different realities, inability to agree on almost anything, causing alienation and opposition, leading to stagnation and possibly violence, when the other side is so abstract they cannot be emphasized with anymore. That again is also a fully rational fear to have, watching what happens in societies in the last years.
I don't even know who of you is more "right", if that notion even applies. Truth is, nobody will know until we see the consequences. In hindsight (a pretty privileged vantage point) many wrong decisions look obvious.
That said, if you care about your friends and think they really do value you and your opinions and truly have no general prejudices (and you are not some "exception from the rule" to them), you maybe should try to understand what makes them vote the way they do and explain how this could have bad long term consequences on you and whether they would want that or find taking that risk acceptable.
Because, if they truly are your friends and have something called empathy and heart, they might reconsider, and otherwise, maybe they are not really your friends and would drop you the moment you become outlawed.
I don't know your friends, but I hope you do.