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[–] ravenaspiring@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fascinating idea and I look forward to reading the book. As someone who has never seen protests be that effective as compared to other constituency pressure mechanisms, it's an interesting counter point.

The OP's article indicates 3.5% of the population, which for the US at the moment would be around 340 million. 3.5% would be 11.9 million people.

Rough guesses are that the protest saw about 4-6 million people out yesterday.

I'm particularly curious about the paper's coalition building concepts about tying immigration to other value such as worker rights, private sector interests such as agriculture, racial justice, etc.

Beyond this I wonder if the analysis from ten years ago takes into account the technological isolation, manipulation, and echo chambering of modern politics. I would venture to guess that the 3.5% might need to be higher in a population that doesn't listen to 'untrusted opinions'.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Last count I saw from 50501 was about 8.6M. Traditional media is reporting about 5M. 50501 is probably including even small protests as this was done nearly everywhere including less official ones in small towns while trad media is probably only including the fully official larger ones.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Or trad media is doing what it always does, minimizing progressive turnout and exaggerating right-wing numbers.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

With protests going on all over the country, I don't see how ANY count can be accurate. Further, there are many supporters who would never attend a protest. I am one of them. I encourage others to go, but I can participate in other ways, like actively posting on social media.

Add up the protesters, the keyboard warriors, and the many other forms of resistance, and we'll hit the 3.5% mark.