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[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh no, I absolutely have ancestors in my past that have done horrendous things. And I'm Australian, so they were also British subjects ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

As for the executions, well I'd love to get my hands on Charles! #NotMyKing

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You don't need to look that far back in all honesty. The Australian treatment of aboriginals has been abhorrent; and continues to this day.

Time to get your guillotine out.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Australians were considered British subjects right up until the 'Australia Act' of 1986. I still very much blame Britain for much of the way Indigenous Australians have been treated. In the same way that I put a lot of blame on Britain for the current war in Gaza. Or the escalating conflict between Pakistan and India.

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well yeah, it's an easy cop out to blame a country the other side of the world for your fellow countryman's treatment of aboriginals.

Introspection is hard; but deflecting the blame will do nothing to resolve the issue.

Edit: Australia gained Responsible government (IE: making their own rules independent of the UK; though subject to higher laws like taxes etc) between 1855-1890... with full autonomy granted in the 1930s.

So you lot have had around 100 years; and the treatment hasn't budged... Let me guess; still not the Aussies fault eh?

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I never said it wasn't Australians fault as well. This is a really reductive take that shifts the blame for colonisation. Fluffing hilarious that you're a feddit.uk user. Cope much for your country destroying the world?

Edit: Also, no, the Westminster Act was not full autonomy, it was the dual Australia Acts in both countries parliaments in 1986 that granted that.

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"as well".

You're still deflecting. The current treatment of aboriginals is wholly down to your country. I ask again, why haven't you got your guillotine out yet?

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's no statute of limitations on genocide.

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exactly. And your inaction during the ongoing issues in your country aligns you with our common ancestors who did nothing way back when; so when's the guillotine coming out?

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What the fluff makes you think that I fail to act? You know literally nothing about me. I can both take responsibility, blame YOU and your country, and act to change things for the better. I am pretty consistently out protesting, and out there donating my time and money to causes looking to change the status quo, even though I am disabled and on a pension.

THIS attitude is why people blame your shitty country for these things. Grow up.

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ohhhh you're so close to getting it.

Now, with all of that emotion about how I know nothing about your activism, try applying that same logic to the British people you're so vehemently against.

This entire conversation has been an attempt to point out your hypocrisy.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah so I'm responsible for my government, but you're not responsible for yours. Got it.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jag off mate. I've said I'm responsible for my country several times. Do you have any responsibility for yours?

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You said you would use the guillotine on multiple British politicians; and even went as far as to deflect the blame for the ongoing persecution of aboriginals to british citizens. Not once have you suggested you even hold Australia accountable for its ongoing systemic issues with racism towards natives, let alone yourself.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're arguing in bad faith. I have literally, multiple times now, said I take accountability on behalf of my country. I just refuse to absolve yours of guilt and that seems to be upsetting you quite a bit.

Also I forgot that Charles was a British politician and not the King of Australia, a title he holds independently due to the Westminster Act you linked.

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm the one arguing in bad faith? Yet more hypocrisy

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Australians were considered British citizens is you initially shirking all responsibility elsewhere, which is how this entire conversation started.

Frame what as your fault? The racism? I thought you said you were taking responsibility... Now I'm just confused. Are you responsible or not?

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll ask you again, are you going to take any responsibility? Otherwise I'm just blocking you, I'm tired of the sealioning now.

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For the Irish famine or the aboriginal persecution? try to be more specific with your questions, Block away. You refuse to acknowledge my questions let alone answer them, so I fail to see why I shouldn't show you the same courtesy.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Irish famine; Invasion of so-called Australia; Israel's persecution of Palestinians; Indian-Pakistani conflict. Pick your poison.

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure, I can make it real simple and just explain the concept.

I don't believe I'm responsible for stuff that happened hundreds of years before my birth; that's a dangerous precedent to set and leads to rampant persecution of entire nations (like you inciting violence upon British people for example, and feeling like that's an okay stance to take).

As for current events, I believe we do have a responsibility to call out and work to correct any injustice at every juncture, and pride myself on trying to doing so. That being said; much like you haven't magically fixed the persecution of aboriginals in Australia, or Israel's persecution of Palestine (which Australia is complicit in too btw...) ; there is only so much we commoners can achieve.

So instead of flinging muck at 70 million people because of their nationality, try finding common ground. Your abrasive nature serves nothing but sowing discord.

I appreciate this will likely fall on deaf ears, and you'll probably resort to further projecting of your own feelings of frustration, so this is the last time I attempt to appeal to your better nature; I'm not fortunate enough to be retired, so I can't waste any more energy on attempting to help you see reason.

like you inciting violence upon British people for example, and feeling like that's an okay stance to take

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