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[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 93 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

“The biometric entry and exit system is not a surveillance program,” the department said in the same document.

It’s a surveillance program.

[–] lesinge@sh.itjust.works 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

But they'll only keep the data for 75 years. /s

[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 8 points 12 hours ago

In a few years they'll change their minds and say it is in perpetuity.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 points 10 hours ago

for Palintir specifically.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 64 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

#stop going to the states

Unless it's necessary for work, and even then I'd weigh the risks, why the hell are any Canadians crossing the border?

I don't plan on doing it ever again.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 19 points 14 hours ago

Agreed. No one should be crossing the border. It's not worth a trip to El Salvador.

[–] radioactivefunguy@piefed.ca 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 16 points 12 hours ago

They can come to a country that is not fascist.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

May not always be realistic I suppose, but they could come to Canada.

Edit: assuming we're taking about visiting.

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 24 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I'm not justifying it, nor am I saying you should visit the States (please don't), but I've been photographed on entry/exit of Japan and NZ the last two years of travelling. Fingerprinted as well in Japan.

I guess I'm just saying that this sadly will become more and more normal globally.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 15 points 12 hours ago

I was fingerprinted or might have had just a check when I entered the US when I was not yet a Canadian citizen, after I became a citizen this never needed to be done.

I'm just sick and tired of all this shit. Once upon a time it used to be that you had to be a criminal, and I mean actually convicted of something, to have those things entered anywhere, now they're just doing it to everyone.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 hours ago

Yeah as a UK citizen I have been photographed and fingerprinted in the USA for like 10 years...its nothing new really.

[–] piwakawakas@lemmy.nz 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm surprised about NZ given how much our government has cut services on border control.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 6 hours ago

I had assumed it was part of the E-Gate. The bit that compares your face to your passport photo.

Theoretically the photo never needs to leave the e-gate system though. I have no idea if it does or doesn't.

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 20 points 15 hours ago

2022: Yay, I finally got my Canadian citizenship! Crossing the US border will be much smoother now 2025: psych!

[–] msage@programming.dev 16 points 17 hours ago

Try me, it will be a boxing day

/s

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 14 points 7 hours ago

Stay home, save yourselves. We don't deserve your tourism anymore.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Neat. Trump stole the election and I quit going. Haven't been since. Sorry good Americans, but the rest of your lot are fucking morons and I won't be coming back.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 points 45 minutes ago

We understand

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 hours ago

I could literally care less what the process is at the US border for Canadians. As a Canadian, I’m never going there ever again and that’s permanent. Not even as a stopover to somewhere else.

[–] run_rabbit@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Canada photographs its own citizens when flying in, if there's outrage over the US border then why aren't we talking about our own entry protocols?

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 hours ago

Because we hate the states

[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

Never had that happen to me. Unless you are referring to the passport verification step.