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cross-posted from : https://lemmy.ca/post/57398965

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[–] FUsername@feddit.org 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ich muss bei dem Slogan vom Plakat irgendwie immer an das hier denken...

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 16 hours ago

Ich bin am Volksten!

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I mean what makes the AfD unique in German politics is how little regional power they have despite getting 15% and more of the votes. Usually a party of that size should‘ve secured a lot more towns and cities by now but their popularity is somewhere between 10% and 30% in rare extreme cases everywhere. They‘re simply not very popular anywhere.

I think it‘s generally believed that the AfD‘s way of success (spreading fear and hate with blatant lies in social media) is their biggest weakness in the end because it evenly distributes their BS across the country and they can‘t really make any use of their rising popularity in many cases.

I mean we had elections in Germany’s most populated state of North Rhine-Westphalia this year and they couldn‘t win a single district or get a single candidate elected. This is not normal for a party with that kind of popularity. It‘s a disaster for them.

So while media keeps spreading fear for clicks, the reality is that the far right appear to be larger than they actually are. There are far more people in Germany that hate the AfD than there are supporters.

Nevertheless, being a far right extremist organization, they should be banned. This is a no-brainer. The fact that it isn‘t happening yet shows how little the current right-conservative government cares about the people. They see opportunity in having a farther right party in the parliament so they themselves look more centric in comparison.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 7 points 16 hours ago

I mean we had elections in Germany’s most populated state of North Rhine-Westphalia this year and they couldn‘t win a single district or get a single candidate elected. This is not normal for a party with that kind of popularity. It‘s a disaster for them.

Good. Unfortunately, in some Eastern parts the situation is very different

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

Politiclowns are popular when they are far away, but once you know them, you don't want them running your city into the ground.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Couldn't even stop the urges for more than 80 years, Jesus. Hey, um, don't do that. We all know how this ends.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 32 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

It would be rather surprising if Germany was able to "stop the urges" while most of their neighbors recently indulged in those exact urges. Despite being former victims of the WW2-Nazis (plus Italy, which should also have learned the hard way that this doesn't end well).

[–] pendel@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

It’s very generous to call the Germans victims of the Nazis when in reality both east and west Germany have been defacto run by former Nazis. There hasn’t been a proper denazification ever, Bundeszentrale für politische Bildung has a lot of material on this.

It’s true that other countries are going down the same route but Germany is not a country of Nazi victims it is a country of descendants of Nazi perpetrators. There could have been a proper restart but it just never happened.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 6 points 14 hours ago

You didn't read properly. The "victim" part refers to the neighbours of Germany which mostly were victims of Germany in WW2.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)
  1. The neighbors of Germany are not Germany itself, but other countries.

  2. How does your comment even refute that statement that you apparently thought I wrote? The Germans who actually wanted the Nazi regime were a minority, though a large one. The first victims of the regime were German opposition politicians/activists, German gay people, German disabled, German jews etc. There were Germans who were perpetrators and Germans who were victims (and some who were both), the country was not a monolith.

Also, many other countries were fairly enthusiastic about the Nazi regime and racism in general, they just didn't like getting attacked by the Germans. UK and France were still colonial regimes, and the US literally had Nazi rallies, still had extremely racist laws (still do, but it got better in the 1960s) and was also a colonial power.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Also, many other countries were fairly enthusiastic about the Nazi regime

I think most countries in the world (have) had political parties or factions which were fascists or sympathetic to them in the 1930's. I mean, also in the Vatican for example.

Found some incomplete wiki list.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Neofascism is a problem in most countries of the world nowadays.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And compared to other countries Germany isn't even in such a terrible state yet.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 1 points 2 hours ago

They did do a whole lot of pushing the antigenocide thing with education, trying to supposedly show regret for the Holocaust, at least that's what I've heard. Guess that didn't work for too long, shame. How are kids going to concentration camps and still not coming out with a permanent empathy for others?

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 13 hours ago

Not on our watch. Nazis deserve only one thing and that's their utter end.

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 6 points 14 hours ago

Abhorrent worthless Nazis. Words cannot express the visceral disgust I feel towards this murderous bunch.

[–] arjuna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Elmo gets his way again! which lawsuits is he trying to end this time?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 16 hours ago

You are right to point out that Musk is actively supporting neofascism in Europe, but this isn't his doing.