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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/40619557

Article translation to English:

It is "in the interest of the United States and Europe" that the European Union be dissolved". That is what Nile Gardiner, director of the European branch of the Heritage Foundation, says to Nieuwsuur. That conservative think tank is known as the main shaper of the policies of US President Donald Trump's second term.

The Trump administration supports "movements and political leaders in Europe" who are "pro-American and believe that Europe should take a different direction," Gardiner says. This concerns leaders of Italy, Poland and Hungary, who see the conservative thinker as "important allies."

In February, Vice President J.D. Already sharply criticized Europe. This summer , further indications came to light that the U.S. is out on a change of power.

According to the new U.S. security strategy, which was published this month, Europe is in danger of "losing its civilization through immigration and the disappearance of national identities." The document praises nationalist parties "who want to preserve the individual character and history of European countries" and supports patriotic parties in their struggle to dismantle the EU from within.

In response, European Commissioner for Human Rights called on Michael O'Flaherty to take courage against US criticism of the EU. European heads of government reacted remarkably little. German Chancellor Friedrich Merz was fierce and called the plan "unacceptable and unacceptable."

The chairman of the committee in the European Parliament that maintains contact with the US called the security strategy "a frontal attack on the EU." The words of the White House, according to him, amount to interference in European elections. 'Warning for Europe'

From right-wing parties, there is also a positive reaction to the American policy paper. Member of the European Parliament Mieke Andriese (PVV) calls it a "clear strategic warning for Europe" this week. "Mass immigration threatens our European identity."

Member of the European Parliament Sander Smit (BBB), a member of a committee for strengthening European democracy, can also agree with parts of the American criticism. "BBB does not support the abolition of the EU, but believes that the EU urgently needs internal reforms because of a democratic deficit, diminishing legitimacy and too much bureaucracy," he tells Nieuwsuur. Read his entire response here.

Nile Gardiner is now going a step further with his plea for the abolition of the EU. "I don't see any future scenario where Europe is better off with the survival of the European Union than without."

There are "deep-rooted concerns in the US capital Washington about what is seen as the suppression of freedom of expression within the European Union," says Gardiner. The EU would have too much power over the member states.

The conservative thinker points, among other things, to the fines that the European Commission handed out to the social medium X, owned by tech billionaire and ex-Trump adviser Elon Musk. The fines totalled 120 million euros and were imposed for violations of an internet law. With these types of "attacks on U.S. tech companies," the EU would undermine US security.

Moreover, the Union would not listen to the voice of the people and restrict the power of right-wing radical parties such as the AfD. And the EU would open the gates for mass migration. Gardiner fears the increasing influence of Islam. "All this makes the EU doomed." 'Europe reacts too weakly'

According to the leading Irish researcher Judy Dempsey (Carnegie Institute), the European Union is responding too weakly and too slowly to the Trump administration's lashing out. "The Europeans don't look at themselves, but just say: don't you dare criticize our democracy."

Dempsey, who is researching international relations, argues that the EU does not use its large internal market sufficiently as a geopolitical instrument. "The EU is not confident and knows how to sell itself poorly."

Trump is responding to this by politically influencing and dividing Europe, the researcher says. "The idea that a divided EU would be in US favour is at odds with the transatlantic view that has been in place since 1945."

"The weakness of Europeans is that they do not confront far-right populist parties, whether in France, the Netherlands, Germany or Italy."

According to Gardiner, the plan to turn the EU into a defense force clashes with US interests. "This undermines the NATO alliance, while it pulls military resources away," he says. "NATO will hopefully exist for centuries to come, but the EU will eventually disappear."

The U.S. under Trump supports right-wing nationalist parties in Europe that "insist on more sovereignty and self-determination," Gardiner says. He mentions, among others, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, Polish President Karol Nawrocki and the party president of France's Rassemblement National, Jordan Bardella. Gardiner emphasizes that it is about political support; there would be no question of financial aid. Discussion within the Heritage Foundation

The Heritage Foundation is an independent right-wing conservative think tank in Washington. They developed 'Project 2025', policy proposals that the government is now implementing. Nile Gardiner is the director of the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom, the European branch of The Heritage Foundation.

The extreme course that the Heritage Foundation has been pursuing since this year leads to ideological discussions within the institute: in recent weeks, some fifteen employees left the institute. Disagreements included stopping support for Ukraine and the controversial tariff policy that President Trump is pursuing. Heritage director Kevin Roberts also initially refused to condemn statements by the far-right, anti-Semitic influencer Nick Fuentes.


Discussions on Reddit about the Heritage Foundation with one saying that the think tank was founded by former Nazis or at least has remote connections to Nazis.

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[โ€“] dotslashme@infosec.pub 68 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

At some point in my life I used to think of the term think tank as something positive and exciting. Experience, unfortunately, has proven them to be nothing but a tool for propaganda and misdirection.

[โ€“] phneutral@feddit.org 14 points 21 hours ago

Neoliberalism was build through a network of think tanks that influenced politicians around the world over decades.

[โ€“] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 64 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

My understanding of the situation, in steps:

  1. American billionaires want to make maximum money
  2. This requires minimum regulations
  3. The EU imposes regulations
  4. Therefore American billionaires and their political party (Republicans) want to break up the EU
[โ€“] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You also forgot:

  1. The EU allows for the countries of Europe to exercise collective power to compete and stand against the United States
  2. America and it's billionaires don't want that and want the EU to be a vassal.
  3. Therefore the US want the EU to break up.
[โ€“] MohamedMoney@feddit.org 13 points 18 hours ago

Slight correction: they donโ€™t want the EU to be a vassal, they want their individual member states to be vassals. A classic move to divide and conquer.

[โ€“] Etterra@discuss.online 52 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The Heritage Foundation should be classified as a terrorist organization.

[โ€“] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 19 hours ago

I'd love to see the EU to start calling out fascist organizations and labeling them as terrorists.

[โ€“] karashta@piefed.social 38 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I'm openly calling for an end to The Heritage Foundation. Any takers?

[โ€“] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 22 points 18 hours ago

Iโ€™m in

[โ€“] noscere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

And my bow!

It is "in the interest of the United States and Europe" that the European Union be dissolved".

Funny, I just wanted to propose the same, but with the USA. You first!

[โ€“] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 15 points 21 hours ago

With every passing month, this country gets more and more disgusting. It's so sad it sickens me.

It's 2025 and they're trying to get back 200yrs but with current tech...

And thanks to people being uninformed, ignorant, clueless or oblivious, shit like Facebook, amazon, WhatsApp and google et al took over the planet in plain sight.

And the literal handful of people boycotting will change nothing at all. For every critical consumer, 10 oblivious will be thrown into the world. And that is probably an excessively optimistic guess.

My point being? I don't have one ๐Ÿ˜ž

[โ€“] Frjttr@sh.itjust.works 11 points 22 hours ago

The Heritage Foundation members will be executed as an extremist organisation, itโ€™s just matter of time. Theyโ€™ve trashed the US, theyโ€™ll trash the EU if we allow them. I wonder why they donโ€™t operate in Russia or China ๐Ÿค”

[โ€“] Shyze3D@feddit.nl 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

What does this have to do with buying european stuff?

[โ€“] freeman@sh.itjust.works 31 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

USA's hostility to the EU is for many the reason to turn to EU products and services instead of American.

[โ€“] Shyze3D@feddit.nl 4 points 20 hours ago

I get that.. but is it necessary to post this kind of news in a community about โ€žbuying localโ€œ in a broader sense? There are so many other communities about news and I feel this one turns into one as well.

[โ€“] nuko147@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

Well buying european stuff could be the difference between theory and reality of this scenario. EU appears to perceived as a USA's tool that is no needed anymore, and is getting in their way.

It's another reminder to buy our stuff when possible.

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 4 points 21 hours ago

Mark my words maga will harass Europe relentlessly if Canada falls.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 17 hours ago

Land of the free?

Whoever told you that is your enemy.

The US is a en enemy to democracy world-wide.

[โ€“] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago

Remember when Kissinger was asking "Europe, which number?"

Seems like they found the number and now they are shitting their pants...

[โ€“] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago

i wonder what word could replace "The Heritage Foundation" in articles to still make sense?

the best i can think of is "cartoon villains"

[โ€“] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What if Europeans now called for the return of the confederates?

/s

[โ€“] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

They would welcome it, because they basically want the timeline where the confederacy conqured the union.

[โ€“] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Well, fuck the US. But also fuck the EU. Let the states be states and focus on standardizing the most important things: Free movement between the states, common currency, shared military doctrine.

[โ€“] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

So apart from free movement between the states, a common currency and shared military doctrine, what did the EU ever do for us?

[โ€“] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 14 hours ago

Costing fucking billions because of the fucking huge apparatus it created and by also sending money to economically less powerful countries, just to be wasted by corrupt politicians. All of that extra shit is what I mean.