You’re saying the Justice Department is just bringing unfounded, trumped-up charges to try and get involved? No way!
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I see what you did there
Are they unaware that Mormonism is a form of Christianity?
The supposed shooter was themselves, a Christian.
A lot of Christians don't think Mormons are Christian. They are of course, but many don't think so.
Someone told me the other day that Catholics weren't Christians. I'm like.... They are the og Christians.
The person refused to believe me.
I grew up with that nonsense. Many evangelical and charismatic Christians think that Catholics aren't true Christians. My "non denominational" high school encouraged students to visit other churches, as long as it wasn't Catholic, Anglican, Mormon or Jehovah's witnesses. I guess they had a direct line to God Almighty in the principles office.
Were they Baptists? I know plenty of Protestants, most especially Baptists, that will definitely be quite vocal about their belief that Catholics are not "real" xtians.
Mormons not believing in the Trinity is a pretty solid argument that, at the very least, they're not Christians in the way nearly all other Christians are Christians.
That puts them in the same bucket as Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Scientists, Unitarians, Iglesia ni Cristo, and Christadelphians.
... thats why most Christians don't think Mormons are really Christians, that they are instead more like heretics.
Not that I personally have a dog in this fight between the finer points of varying forms of mass shared delusions based on a corpus of hundreds of different texts that have been edited and translated and added to and subtracted from, tens or hundreds of thousands of times, over approximately 2500 years...
... but the idea of the Trinity is a pretty big deal, going back through the entire history of Christianity.
Whole lots of nontrinitarians have been called, and killed for being heretics by whole lots of trinitarians, for... what, roughly... 1750 years?
Yeah that's a pretty solid historical precedent.
Mormons call everyone else, including other xtians, "Gentiles".
It's amusing how all this works, since LDS members tend to think that they form the real xtianity. Hey, it's not really any more arrogant than the Jewish heresy called xtianity (maybe more appropriately called Paulianity) that now seems to turn around and claim that the OG religion got so many things wrong, but the heretical sect has it right. But, oh yeah, they'll use the old text and claim that is what gives the new heretical sect and its writing its legitimacy, LOL.
Hey, if it's all just made up, who's to say? Remember: the Nicean Creed was voted on, nearly 300 years after the character of Jesus is said to have died.
I mean history is full of different sects of a religion going to war with each other (or at least hating each other).
Yep, and the exact reason the Founders were such sticklers on a seperation between church and state... on a secular society...
....was that the US was more or less initially settled by a bunch of Christian religious extremists of varying flavors, who all couldn't hack it in Europe, and they knew that if you let the government start explicitly picking favorites with religions?
Well, then US history would look a lot more like (what was to them, fairly recent) European history.
Aka, a whole bunch of mostly Christians killing mostly other different Christians, with an occasional, quite notable pogrom against Jews, or crusade against Muslims.
... As we can currently see... they evidently did not establish this paradigm strongly enough to withstand just a few centuries of persistent and dogged US Christian Extremeism.
I guess at this point I'm just waiting for Utah to claim its own Greater Deseret boundaries and assert its own independence, maybe when the US is embroiled in just another actual, full fledged land war with Mexico.
Give it about a decade, I'd guess.
Gonna be pretty wild if they bungle this and the guy ends up going free.
USA: Killing someone who is hateful is now a hate crime.
I think by now we have a pretty good picture of Robinson's motives and they do not fit the usual definition of hate crime. This was much more personal than MAGA would like it to be.
Enough of his HATRED? STUPID Librul!
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