Surely nuking the entire tourism industry (again) will fix the economy!
this post was submitted on 11 Dec 2025
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Especially for world cup!
They don’t want their kids exposed to different cultures. Much easier to keep people bigoted when they never meet a foreigner.
Well there are still people stupid enough to visit the Untied States now, I don't know what would have to happen to get through to them
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Because we are all required to use social media?
Not required to use, just access to all your social media. In addition, the rules want your phone history, including texts and 10 years of emails. Also remember, this (Lemmy) is considered social media. So, good luck if you have ever posted anything on a forum that a bunch of Nationalist Christians, or Nat-c's for short, don't like.
This is why you don’t use your real name online.
This is why governments are pushing age verification to track you while pretending it's to protect the children.
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And a throw away email.
Yeah how are they supposed to know this is my account? How are you even supposed to provide them with all of this info? And how are they going to review all of this data if they can even obtain it in the first place?
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And how exactly do they enforce this? I’m just curious, like you get off the plane, walk to customs and immigration, and they say you need to hand over your phone?
They are revamping ESTA. Currently, many countries citizens do not need a visa, but must get the electronic ESTA, to travel to the US. You can't just walk off a plane and gain entry, you must have prior approval. They are going to try to check everyone through some AI bullshit and make it hard or scary to even come to the states, denying you entry before you even get on the plane. This just fits right in with making America a bigger shithole and destroying it.
Yes, they already do that. That said, if you have good op-sec, you're not going to have your social media on your phone. At least, not your real social media, or if you do, you'll have it behind a password they can't break and that you're not going to give them, so this is not really about getting into everyone's social media per se, it's more about providing them more excuses to detain people they don't like, increasing surveillance of people who they know are probably not really doing anything wrong to begin with, and the chilling effect that surveillance provides in controlling those people who are not really doing anything wrong.
I’ve been through customs and immigration and I’ve never saw them ask for anyone’s phone before. That said, no one knows what they’ll do anymore, maybe just shoot us in the face 🤔
I know people who have had to give them the phone. It doesn't happen every time, it doesn't happen to everyone, it doesn't happen often, but it definitely does happen, and from what I understand, they can refuse you entry if you do not. I'm not in a position to say how common or widespread it is, but there are enough anecdotal stories to convince me it's probably decently widespread, albeit occasional and possibly targeted. Like you said though, no one knows what they'll do anymore, maybe just shoot you in the face. And that's kind of the point. They want that environment of uncertainty and not knowing when the bullet is going to come for you.
Why would anyone agree to providing them with ten years of emails. That's insane. It's private. Just absolutely no way ever.
No, but if you do, the (American) social media companies will tattle on you, guaranteed.
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Like printed out?
Recited from memory
All they need is your username. Palantir will do the rest.
Imagine the poor schmuck posting hundreds of tweet per day, he will print 200'000 tweets?
There's some great potential malicious compliance to be had here.
Although the best compliance is to just avoid ever going to the USA.
The good news is that pretty soon there won't be any foreign tourism to the US, so no one will have to enforce this.
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They really want to kill the tourism industry.
Tank every sector of the economy possible. Amazing.
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I wish the conservatives realized with tariffs and having no tourism to the U.S. we will surely starve.
They don't care, as long as the rich are unaffected
So, I guess it's been foreign tourists who have been planting pipe bombs and shooting up our schools?
Exactly. That tourist may look harmless with their camera and suitcase. But there are actually pure blooded chaos agents sent to destroy our beautiful nation. -s
I don't know why anybody still chooses to go to the Untied States
They are stupid would be my assumption. This said as an American.
If you don't go, don't invest over there. You won't have to submit them anything. So like North Korea, Iran or China: stay away.
People should not be coming to the US. They are likely to be chained and sent back by these fascist.
Sent back if they're lucky. Otherwise sent to concentration camps, El Salvador, or just never seen again at all.
More like chained, thrown into concentration camps, and forgotten about/ lost/ killed. Travelling to this country is an existential threat.
This is protection. Protection for a snowflake trump administration against JD Vance memes. Egos in this government are too fragile for repeated meme attacks and therefore they must be stopped at the borders at all costs. God I wish this was a joke
"Sir, the memes are coming from inside the house!"
As if people are even planning to visit. I’m not, not even when Trump is dead.
Maybe when the union is dead, but yeah they are speed running the collapse of an empire.
Hahahahha what a bunch of thin-skinned losers
Only a matter of time before there is a royal insult law in the USA.
The list of countries in the visa waiver program includes many European nations like the United Kingdom, Germany and France, as well as some U.S. allies around the world, including Australia, Israel, Japan, New Zealand and South Korea.
Side note: interesting that European countries are not included in the list of allies.
People need to seriously stop coming here. Pull out any and all business you are able and cut America off. If we’re going to act like a walled garden, why support it? Help keep this cancer contained and stay the fuck away from anything America or American.
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And the rest of us boycott in solidarity.
Can someone ELI5 why their map of visa free countries doesn't include Canada? Canada doesn't need a visa
It's probably because entry for Canadians is specified by a different program. Even the State Department website seems to exclude Canada from the VWP.
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none will be asked of RUSSIAN, Saudia arabia, UAE, israel no doubt.
"will have to" is such a misleading phrasing... Many of them will visit elsewhere. Fuck that shit for tourism. It's not worth it, not to see some sites.
Perhaps 10 years ago I seriously thought that moving to USA might improve my life.
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