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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/39664905

Lieutenant General Christian Freuding fears the longstanding military partnership between the two allies is unravelling under President Trump’s administration

The Pentagon has “cut off contact” between American defence officials and their German counterparts, according to the head of Germany’s army.

The United States has traditionally treated Germany as one of its most important European allies. It is thought to have about 35,000 soldiers stationed at German bases such as Ramstein and Stuttgart, which serve as staging posts for American operations across Africa and the Middle East.

Since President Trump’s return to power in January, the relationship between the countries has become markedly cooler.

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 65 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Germany should probably consider expelling all US troops stationed in Germany in response and make a public announcement that this is being discussed at least. You can‘t just sit still when a supposedly close ally suddenly slaps the door at you.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 6 hours ago

I'm guessing there's a lot of smaller steps they could take to make the US hurt, but yes, they shouldn't ignore it. Going to the media was probably step 1.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Frankly I’ve always thought the concept of military bases on foreign soil was creepy at best. And it’s hilarious how many people welcome it and the. Freak out when Saudi Arabia is looking at a base in the US. Now you know how it feels.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

We have American border police at our airports, and they are able to act as if they're on home turf and not our fucking land -- including arresting us to take to America. I have a thought as to whom we can expel from here, obviously!

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

Some of them welcome the bases (or so we are told) to help with defense. But seeing what’s going on in Ukraine, it seems like we can’t rely on allies to help out. Maybe still a deterrent though?

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago

That would be the sensible and forward thinking action which prioritizes Germany's future well being, yes.

[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 38 points 7 hours ago

Trump is doing Putin's work.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 0 points 5 hours ago

Imagine how that must feel for Germany. First, they decide they want to tie Russia down to eternal peace by dangling infinite oil and gas riches in the face of Putin, and he decides to hell with riches, he wants WAR!

Then they have this relationship that lasted for 80 years with a former occupying nation that they submitted to and obeyed. They braved nationwide dissent over that nation stationing nuclear missiles on its peace-loving soil. They criminalized everything that nation disliked. As recently as (checks notes) now they supported a genocidal regime because they were told that's the thing to do.

And now all this sensible foreign policy blows up in their face, and they did nothing wrong, except bet on the crazy horses.

I mean, it beats BEING the genocidal regime, or - worse - being the target of the genocidal regime. But it does give one the impression that being sensible is not all that it's cracked up to be.