this post was submitted on 02 Dec 2025
253 points (98.5% liked)

World News

51031 readers
1943 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Russia and the US did not make progress toward a peace deal for Ukraine during their talks, a senior aide to Vladimir Putin has said, hours after the Russian president issued threats that Russia was ready for war with Europe.

In remarks to Russian media, Kremlin aide Yuri Ushakov said that after a five-hour meeting with Trump envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, the two sides were “neither further nor closer to resolving the crisis in Ukraine. There is a lot of work to be done.”

The downbeat assessment of Tuesday night’s diplomacy follows combative opening statements from Putin as Witkoff and Kushnerarrived for talks at the Kremlin, in which he accused European powers of sabotaging peace in Ukraine and that “European demands” on ending the war were “not acceptable to Russia”.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 100 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (5 children)

collapsed inline media

Russia wasn’t even ready to invade one of its former blocs. And that bloc has more than decimated its forces and resources.

But hey, my grandfather got to watch Allied Europe destroy a fascist state that thought it could take over the world, now me and my son get to as well.

[–] we_all_live_in_a_capital_i@lemmy.ca 61 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

"When you are weak, pretend you are strong." Pretty much sums it up.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 29 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

This is actually reasonable in warfare and encouraged by Sun Tzu, but once the deception is exposed, there is little advantage in clinging to it.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 21 points 17 hours ago

Russia exposed the deception by completely fucking up the invasion of Ukraine.

[–] AAA@feddit.org 17 points 12 hours ago

But there's also nothing to gain by admitting and stopping the deception. As long as there's one useful idiot who can be deceived, you cna keep it going.

And unfortunately there's a lot of useful idiots.

Someone needs to bust out the old iraq propaganda minister meme.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Except this time the fascist states are nuclear capable. The idea here is to avoid nuclear war.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 28 points 18 hours ago

Then they should leave Ukraine.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

That's always been a lopsided proposition for Russia in this invasion. The prevailing winds blow east and they'd be poisoning themselves as much as anyone.

You know, like Chernobyl which they also bombed.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 56 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They also said that their invasion of Ukraine would take only three days.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 33 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

They said they would never attack Ukraine. In fact they've written it down and signed it.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 51 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Just like they were ready to fully conquer Ukraine, fight?

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 21 points 21 hours ago

Just gonna take a little long weekend and acquire some territory, nothin fancy.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 48 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Lmfao no you’re not, fuckwit. You’re deploying infantry bum rushes in appropriated civilian sedans with the doors ripped off. The Taliban has better kit than that, for fuck’s sake.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

According to the tankies, Russia now has the largest army ever at 1.5m men and are stronger than when they started the special operation. So like they have ..the cards…and not just endless meat waves. It doesn’t matter they’ve only gained inches of territory in months.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 4 points 4 hours ago

Or that Ukraine is holding them off with basically scraps of obsolete Western military equipment, very little first line hardware. Attack Europe and you find the full weight of NATO's first line military hardware shoved up your ass. Somebody pushes a button somewhere and a few dozen Tomahawk missiles destroy your ability to wage war in an afternoon. Nukes not even needed if every airfield and military supply depot within 500 mi of Europe is a smoking crater.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 39 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Now he's ready for war now that his puppet is back in power.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 24 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, anyone seeing this as Putin doing jackshit is kidding themselves.

This is about having the US attack Europe. Or maybe just Ukraine. Who knows.

It doesn't really matter. What matters is that the US is compromised, and Europe needs to be ready for that yesterday.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t see an appetite in the states for war with Venezuela, a nation we’ve been conditioned to think of as godless socialists for 20+ years, let alone one with NATO allies. Trump doesn’t have unlimited power, as much as he wishes he does.

Either way, Europe should be gearing up.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 39 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Russia losing to a small country and now think they can take on all of the Europe?

We know his orange sock puppet has full on dementia, maybe Pootin needs a checkup too?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] realitista@lemmus.org 35 points 13 hours ago

Russia says a lot of things. But Europe does need to step up production quickly.

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 29 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Are they now..? Then it seems rather odd - in light of their usual behavior - that they're just talking instead of acting upon it.

Why, it's almost like Putin is so completely full of shit that the pressure is forcing it out his mouth.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 25 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

well if Russia is as "ready" to fight Europe as it was to fight Ukraine, we have no problem

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Destroyed lives and whole towns is hardly a "no problem". russia needs a good kick in the teeth, but these things are never free. I hope Europe is ready to finally stand up.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 19 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 13 hours ago

it really was a shit book

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

He says, as they are press-ganging migrants to fight on the front lines and fabricating evidence in order to seize oligarch fortunes.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 3 points 3 hours ago

He did not say what the original headline (post titles) implies. The headline has since then been edited to better reflect Putin's words: “Russia does not intend to fight Europe, but if Europe starts, we are ready right now.”

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] redpastaknife@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago

These .ml folks comments are diabolical 🤣

[–] bonenode@piefed.social 13 points 17 hours ago

Europe is preventing nothing but the full annexation of Ukraine.

[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

France, laughing with a functional nuclear arsenal...

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Germany, not laughing when they remember where France had the targets set.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 9 points 3 hours ago

Kinda hard to rattle your saber when you already smashed it to pieces failing to kill a crippled animal.

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Oh fucking bring it you cold war-ass Goldeneye dingdong, we're ready

[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

We are not ready though. Mentally, sure, but in case of an all out war we would still run out of ammo, bombs and manpower in weeks. Only now do we see the first factories and production lines coming online based on the investments of the past years and even then not all the supply lines have been adjusted for it. Europe could probably be ready by the end of 2027 at the earliest, provided it removes its command and control dependency from the US.

Realistically, Europe won't be ready until 2030. That's not to say we wouldn't be able to get ready sooner, we absolutely would, if we were to switch to a war economy. But nobody wants that, because it ruins your economy and is grossly expensive.

That doesn't mean we would get crushed, that wouldn't be the case, but we would be on the defensive for a while until the gears of war are properly greased.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] molestme247@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

Sounds a lot like the orange fuck stains crying, bow it make sense where he learned it. Hey trump, tru shutting the fuck up and dying, do Americans a favorite

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Cool, now that Putin is openly threatening war with Europe they will of course stop buying his oil...right!!??

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I watched that part. Putin visibly flinches when he realizes what he said and then for the following few sentences tries to lighten the message down. It's kinda fun to see him that weak in front a microphone.

He's so not ready for a war with Europe that he cannot even lie about it.

But headline creators don't give a fuck about that of course.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 5 points 17 hours ago

Seems like a good time for the EU to get ready for moving troops to Ukraine and start with "flying sanctions" too.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Ready to collapse?

load more comments
view more: next ›