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[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The historicity of Jesus is not questioned by any serious historians.

That's not what the video is about. It is about questioning grotesque implications of the Ken Burns quote that is in the title.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jesus-like “myth” exists over many different cultures, and is therefore impossible. I’m sure I can find an equal number of qualified people to agree he is a myth.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fact that a religious mythology exists around a historical figure does not disprove the existence of that person. Siddhartha Gautama, Socrates, Mohammed, Alexander the Great were real people, regardless of the traditions about their lives that arose about them afterwards. The Wikipedia article is actually very precise:

[T]he general consensus among modern scholars is that a Jewish man named Jesus of Nazareth existed in the Herodian Kingdom of Judea and the subsequent Herodian tetrarchy in the 1st century AD, upon whose life and teachings Christianity was later constructed

However, scholars distinguish between the 'Christ of faith' as presented in the New Testament and the subsequent Christian theology, and a minimal 'Jesus of history', of whom almost nothing can be known

Again, this has nothing to do with the video.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can find text to back up any view

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's an unserious thing to say.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So is a joke about Jesus existing outside of stories.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Again, what an unserious thing to insist on, despite the scholarly consensus.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It’s not scholarly consensus, it’s the scholars that you have chosen. There are many Very well educated people who deny the existence of Jesus Christ as a person. You would know this if you were to bother looking, but you just believe in Jesus and that’s your thing. But it’s really something you should do by yourself.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm an atheist you dumbass.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe -2 points 2 days ago

I’m sure you have lots of scholars who you can use to show the earth is flat.