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“We are talking about a coordinated effort of eight senators, with the knowledge of Leader Schumer, voting to break with the entire Democratic Party,” said the New York Democrat.

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 84 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We didn't just get nothing, we lost ACA subsidies and hemp products. It was 40+ days that gave republicans a platform to blame Dems, and then they got a royal flush when 12 Democrats across Congress ate a shit sandwich for fun.

My expectations were low, but somehow establishment Democrats proved that they aren't just worthless, but a liability.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also,

According to the bill text, senators may seek up to $500,000 in statutory damages if their phone records are subpoenaed without their knowledge. 

The language is inside one of the three full-year spending bills that the Senate included in its government funding package.

"Any Senator whose Senate data, or the Senate data of whose Senate office, has been acquired, subpoenaed, searched, accessed, or disclosed in violation of this section may bring a civil action against the United States if the violation was committed by an officer, employee, or agent of the United States or of any Federal department or agency," the bill reads.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/provision-government-funding-bill-allows-senators-sue-secretly/story?id=127429007

So 8 Senators who had their phone records subpoenaed as part of the Jan 6 investigation get a $500,000+ payout.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It thought I read that it was on a per subpoena basis, so in reality it's 1,000,000+ per senator.

I try to not think to deep into this shit because that implies there's something other that nefarious intentions, but I don't understand how this can possibly be legal or even feasible. Like, there's a lot of heinous shit that Republicans have done on a consistent basis, but to somehow write payouts like this into a bill and then, that's just it, is mind boggling. I hope they all choke on their tongues and die in fear.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I've read similar that it is per subpoena, but I haven't found an article with a more detailed analysis yet.

Now technically in the article I linked Speaker Johnson says he'll hold a vote to remove that clause, but even if he's being genuine I'm guessing it won't pass in the Senate or will be vetoed by Trump.

The whole this just kicking someone (the United States) while they're down. Longest shutdown. SNAP benefits halted. ACA subsidies expired. Hemp outlawed. Senator payouts... And this current "victory" only lasts until the end of January. Just long enough for the wounds to start healing before we all get kicked down again.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How many times do the Democrats need to twist and contort and go waaaaay out of their way to steal defeat from the jaws of victory for it to form a clear composite picture of collaboration?

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago
[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't see the loss of hemp products... What was that?

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It was a provision included in the bill by none other than that ghoul McConnell. I don't have a good link to share, but a search for "block on hemp products" yields some relevant articles.

Effectively it will ban THC derivatives, CBD, and other hemp based products. I'm seeing numbers like 95% of the hemp industry would fucked.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Absolutely wild choice by McConnell, considering one of the only things Kentucky has a better reputation for than being backwater is growing hemp/weed

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Also booze, probably the largest competitor of THC.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

So disappointing. She only notes when she could have slams.

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

She considered eviscerating but was skewered.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Dr Mantis Toboggan

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not a single rips or shreds in sight.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

She should have Luigi'd but instead she went with media statement.

That’s because she’s too right and she’s taking it easy on the elite democrats.

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It was 100% about EBT for Thanksgiving. The Dems still don't realize that The political games of the past aren't working anymore against an opponent who has no agenda beyond punishing his political rivals.

Trump wants to destroy anything that he even thinks is left leaning. He doesn't give a shit about renewable energy but democrats do therefore wind turbines are his enemy.

College educated people are less likely to vote republican therefore all universities are his enemy.

I'll bet he doesn't even understand the concept of fascism or even what a dictator is. All he cares about is hearing "yes". All he wants is the obsequiousness he sees other leaders get.

Never forget that at his core he is a barely literate diaper wearing spoiled brat with a room temperature IQ. The day he leaves will become a national holiday.

[–] lando55@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago

I'll bet he doesn't even understand the concept of fascism or even what a dictator is.

Maybe he's born with it.

Maybe it's Mussolini.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He does know what a dictator is - he promised he'd be one on day one. Once of the few promises he's kept.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

Plus the only book we know he's probably read is a book of Hitler's speeches.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Their agenda is to destroy the entire administrative state. They want a US that is from before FDR.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

She needs to be so much more aggressive we right now, be out for blood.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago

We don’t need another tyrant. She is doing just fine with her responses. Active on social media, speaking out and pointing out the hypocrisy in her speeches. Can’t ask for much more from a person with integrity.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I haven't look into it with any depth, but I kind of feel recall elections should be possible especially for US Senators.

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're not. It's absolutely something that should have been implemented, but there just isn't any mechanism for legally ousting sitting Senators other than them being indicted on criminal charges. Otherwise Fetterman would have been gone ages ago and would never have been able to participate in this farcical "deal".

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Senators can be expelled if 67 of them vote for it, but that's about it. Which means if the Republicans ever got 67 Senators, there would never be a Democrat or Independent in there again.

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It got some assholes some air-time. I would like to thank Kaine for making Hillary's loss years ago easier to swallow. "How could she lose to-- oh, now I 'member."