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Each time I read "Trump orders", "Trump does X", I always ask myself: "Wait, can he do that? Congress? House? Judiciary? Cheks? Balances? Hellooooooooooo...?"...
... but this is still the first few months of his second term. At this pace, he will be a literal king in a few more months.
A scary prospect to say the least, and I hope it's not too late for America to do something about this. This should not be normalized. This cannot be normalized.
until Trump determines that Ukrainian leaders are making a genuine effort toward peace.
They are literally shooting every Russian they spot on their soil, how is that not making a genuine effort toward peace?
They are literally shooting every Russian they spot on their soil
There are 8 millions russian speakers living in ukraine i hope these don't count as "russian"
Are they wearing a Russian military uniform? Then they are an enemy combatant.
It's really not that hard, dude.
Not every russian is wearing one
Ok? Ukraine is obviously not targeting civilians in their drone strikes so your point is completely moot.
Let's hope they aren't
Only the Russian imperial narrative is so that Russians speaking people are considered Russians. There are Russian speaking people in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine and in many -Stans, they are not Russians.
Not a very useful remark. The Ukrainian army is full of Russians speaking people.
There are ethnic russians there. What i'm pointing out is that "shooting every russian they spot" sounds racist.
I saw you around, and I know also you are Italian, so I will tell you in a way you understand. You are being a "puntalcazzista" to throw shade on Ukraine with vague racism claims. Anybody with a pulse will understand that "shooting every Russian on the spot" means "shooting every invader", and that roughly would include also north Koreans or other ethnicities, should those set foot in Ukraine to assist Russian invasion. You are trying to claim an interpretation that doesn't make sense, because - as I told you and you can easily verify - the Ukrainian army itself is full of Russian speaking people, who you might call "ethnic Russian" - whatever you think that means. So unless you are honestly suggesting that OP was suggesting Ukrainian army is also shooting on the spot to members of its own army, we both know what you are doing.
I saw you around, and I know also you are Italian, so I will tell you in a way you understand. You are being a “puntalcazzista” to throw shade on Ukraine with vague racism claims. Anybody with a pulse will understand that “shooting every Russian on the spot” means “shooting every invader”
You must be new here, people have been racist toward russians for a good time.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/27157199
How exactly i'm throwing shade on ukraine by pointing out a racist generalization in comment?
You’re either not understanding the intent of their message or you’re willfully twisting it.
That’s what is being pointed out.
They’re clearly referencing the invaders, you misunderstood and took umbrage where you didn’t need to. Having been corrected you’re still pushing the idea that they were being racist.
You’re acting in bad faith.
You’re either not understanding the intent of their message or you’re willfully twisting it.
How i'm twisting anything? To me it looks like you are try to twist things here accusing me of being in bad faith when i simply pointed out yet another discrimination against "russians" as if they were all bad. Are you aware that there are russian people living in ukraine?
you aware that there are russian people
Some of them are getting shot. The ones belonging to an army who is invading. The random resident who immigrated is not being shot
How a statement such as "they are shooting Russians on the spot" discriminatory? It's a statement, not even a call to do that. Stop embarrassing yourself, take the L and just close this post, PD.
“they are shooting italians on the spot”
“they are shooting americans on the spot”
“they are shooting egyptians on the spot”
Replace the country with yours and perhaps you can understand how russian people may find it discriminatory
Ci fai o ci sei?
If someone said "in Afghanistan they were shooting Italians on the spot" I wouldn't find it discriminatory, because I am not an idiot, and I can immediately understand that they refer to the people who went there as a foreign army, not to random Italians.
It's so ridiculous that you are still here arguing about this, and you know why? Because you could have made the same argument about Ukrainians. OP said that Ukrainians are shooting Russians on the spot. Do you think OP meant that all Ukrainians are shooting all Russians? Do you think he meant that 2 yo Ukrainians, take out the pacifier to shoot the random Russian person who works at the local shop and is there for 20 years? Or maybe the obvious message was that Ukrainian army is shooting Russians (in the invading army) on the spot?
No no, let's go and divert attention on a useless conversation for a sentence that was obvious even to rocks.
In any case, do you understand that stating a fact is not discriminatory? OP didn't say "I hope they kill every Russian", ~~he~~ they said "they are shooting", which can't be discriminatory if it's a fact. Reality is not discriminatory. At most it could be false.
Ci fai o ci sei?
If someone said “in Afghanistan they were shooting Italians on the spot” I wouldn’t find it discriminatory, because I am not an idiot, and I can immediately understand that they refer to the people who went there as a foreign army, not to random Italians.
“in slovenia they were shooting Italians on the spot”
It’s so ridiculous that you are still here arguing about this, and you know why?
You know what's ridiculous? Having to change the subject to their country to make people realize that they are being racist
The U.S. Military and the CIA must know what a threat to the country Trump is, right?
......right?
Sometimes I wish the US were what tankies say it is.
It's funny how much the tankies have in common with the liberal socialists. If only they weren't so darn argumentative.
This is so cool. STOP FUNDING WAR.
Guess what. War is gonna happen regardless. Except now the Ukrainians are going to have a harder time fighting back, while the russians start their pogroms.
Right then why fund them and send people to their deaths?
Why not just succeed a little land and sign a cease fire
Russia will keep killing Ukrainians, so they need be forced to stop. Letting russia next it's neighbours is a fucking stupid take. Appeasing the colonial fascist has never gone well before, and it won't now. Ukrainians are fighting for their homes. Succeeding land like Crimea didn't stop russia from invading so it won't stop it again.
It's better to try something. What your idea is to do nothing. Great idea, let's just continue letting people die.
It's better to try something. What your idea is to do nothing. Great idea, let's just continue letting people die.
No, my idea isn't to "do nothing". It's to fund and support Ukrainian sovereignty lol. No clue where the fuck you are pulling that from. You want more people to die, let russia have it's way, way more people will die. I'm glad your comfortable with the thought of other countries just annexing territory on a whim. Fucking shit tier take
Oh sorry, your supporting Ukraine, so they can continue the killing. What a moronic route.
So just continue with the killing.
That's not doing anything differently.
Succeeding land will stop the war.
Make Russia sign a peace treaty with America and Ukraine for the land.
It's infinitely better than your idea of just continue the killing. "It's fine"
Brain-dead.
Oh sorry, your supporting Ukraine, so they can continue the killing. What a moronic route.
Nah, I'm supporting Ukraine to defend their sovereignty. The killing can stop, russia needs to fuck back off to russia
Ceeding the land to russia won't stop any war, at best it will put a temporary pause until they want more, causing more pain and suffering and death.
Make russia fuck back off to russia is the only viable option, unless you think appeasing fascist dictators is a good idea.
Brain-dead.
That is the only explanation as to why you said the things to say. Hey being self aware is step one. Maybe don't victim blame.
"Said the things to say"? No I said it because you're a basic fucking moron.
Russia will never back the fuck off, are you fucking stupid?
You live in a delusional world.
Dumb fucks like you are the reason why these wars go on for so long.
The weapons companies enrich themselves over fucks like you perpetuating war.
Russia has no reason to continue fighting an exhaustingly costly war. It's in their interest to stop fighting. This helps that along the way.
You guys living in fairy world have no real world options for stopping this war.
Ukraine succeeded minerals to America because they know that they need to give something up to achieve victory. Don't be a bellend all your life and join the real world.
Jfc you're still here?
To quote what you said
Russia will never back the fuck off
They will re arm and re equip and do it allll over again, maybe not to Ukraine, maybe to another country, but they will perpetuate killings, that's what they do.
Dumb fucks like you
Nah, dumb fucks like you are the reason these colonists assholes keep stealing land and genociding others, literally open any history book. Because you want to appease them. They cause more suffering and death. Again, open literally any history books.
Ukraine succeeded minerals to America because they know that they need to give something up to achieve victory.
Nah only when trump got elected, the us was supporting with no mineral rights needing to be bargained, because trump is a fucking peice of shit.
You say I live in a fantasy land? Oh buddy, I genuinely pitty you.
Yeah America was pumping money into Ukraine, because the military industrial complex was massively profiting off it.
Your idea of doing nothing is general absolutely retarded.
And it's the reason these wars go on and on. Because you're too stupid and stubborn to succeed some land. And yes Russia will stop because it's not profitable to endlessly fight, they want a solution too.
Your solution is doing nothing, which does make you a dumb fuck.
I don't pity you, I think you're a baseless idiot.
Oh, sweet summer child. You are so naive, one day, you will understand that colonists like putin will never stop, they will continue to cause untold chaos and damage, resulting in the deaths of millions upon millions upon millions. Please, I urge you, open a history book, see the world for what it really is, not some utopia where land grabbers like putin would actually stop. He will get back to it in short oder, and then people like you will say, appease him! Stop the defense of your life, culture, family etc. Just give him what he wants! He will stop! And then, he will continue and continue, eventually coming to your country.
Your solution is to give him what he wants, your solution will cause more death and suffering, your solution is naive, and unfounded in reality.
Again, I pitty you.
No he will stop.
It costs too much money to waste continual war. It doesn't make sense to continually be at war.
He only did this because Ukraine wanted to join NATO.
And Putin didn't want NATO on his front doorstep.
You've been brainwashed by western media into thinking that he's the evil one but he's protecting his boarders from the imminent threat of NATO.
Maybe stop being so naive and think outside your box.
If your family was fighting for their lives, they'd give up a little bit of land for some security.
Of course you have no idea what that's like, because you live in your sheltered little world, behind a computer screen.
Right he will stop. Talk about being brain washed and naive!
You're regurgitating Kremlin propaganda, nato is a defense treaty.
Jfc your lack of ability to understand the situation astounds me.
Keep shilling for putin and his continuous land grabs. Keep excusing that all of this is his fault.
I pitty you.
Yeah and they call the American war machine the defence budget.
Just because it's called defence, doesn't mean they won't attack.
Don't be so naive.
They prodded the bear with threatening to join NATO. And they got the whip.
Right, and every other country who wanted to join nato? Maybe it's because they were concerned for russias consistent aggression to their neighbour's? Imagine being such a limp dick you invade another country only to be checked by what should have been a push over, and has now cost almost a million casualties, and depleting tank stocks, and to have naive people defend your aggression as if it was some sort of 5d chess move to defend yourself by showcasing how shitty your army is. Lol.
Nato is a defense agreement, against aggression like say the aggression that russia is doing.
Seriously, you naivity is showing.
I kinda wonder what people in the 3 letter agencies are thinking right now. I would hope that enough of these agencies actually view Trump as a fundamental threat to democracy, because he actually is. People have warned for this to happen, for a while now, even though many are surprised at the speed at which it happens. But still, you would kind of hope for some of these agencies to actually stand for the constitution, instead of for the ruling party and his current president.
The US is so much more than just the current political ruling class. It's sad that there seems at least, to be so little visible opposition to their efforts to derail the US geopolitical power and to overthrow the system of law and order. One who the Republicans should hold deep, and definitely the people who pledge their allegiance to the constitution. I wonder if it would have gone different if someone like Saunders or Obama would have tried a similar play.
Derailing US political power is a good thing. Not good for the US, but good for the world.
We will see. Pax Americana has been a hugely stabilizing force in many regions around the world. If an empire falls, fighting over the power vacuum commences. Empires get replaced by chaos and eventually other empires.
Entire admin is pathetic losers. And thanks a lot to all those geniuses who wouldn't vote for Kamala because of Gaza, this is partially on your hands
You should be blaming the people who voted for hillary clinton in the 2016 primary for why we have 12 years of trump.
They didn't want to give up their greed or entitlement, so this is what we got instead.
You are a RETARD