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[–] AngularViscosity@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But then how will they make money renting out the office space?

[–] FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Who they gonna rent it to when the other companies are trying to do the same?

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

AI article and website

[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (18 children)

Every time this comes up i tell my personal and data driven experience as a middle manager in a company, and every time people trash me, but i keep saying it.

IT FUCKING DEPENDS!

From purely data point of view (note: this is from my place of work) workers whose work is purely executing more or less the same duties every day had their productivity have a nose dive when working long stretches from home. Also their works quality got worse. Its easy to reinforce bad habits whitout even noticing it, if the feedback comes from email and and not straight from the supervisor.

BUT with jobs like coders or artists where the job is more open ended instead of monotous labor there was no ill effects.

Then on the other side communication has gotten much slower with the people working from outside office. Where i used to just walk to the other room and ask something from my collegue i now need to message them in our internal and hope they notice it. Getting answers for questions have turned from 5 minute thing to 10-40 minute things.

Also from the point of more inventive things on my work we have lost a lot of changes to brainstorm ideas. No more throwing ideas around during lunch or coffee breaks

[–] bystander@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The article does have this caveat.

"Context still matters. Job type, home setting, and leadership quality vary. Yet the direction remains positive. Even with modest differences by role, the health and satisfaction curves point upward. Inside those curves, remote work behaves as a flexible option that organizations can calibrate rather than a rigid rule."

Though I will say your argument is still centered around being productive and effective for the company (make money for the company), the article specifically centers around an individual's well-being (sleep, family life etc.). So not the same metrics.

Other articles and research I've seen that did center on productivity did conclude that yes, it depends.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

How about the workers' wellbeing? Is that ever considered?

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Out of curiosity, can you describe, with a bit more detail, the kind of work that was repetitive and became worse?

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[–] loonsun@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

In the field of organizational psychology (which research like this is typically done by), the phrase "it depends" is used so often among scientists that it's a running gag at this point

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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How about those of us who can’t due to the nature of our jobs?

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only advantage to me being in the office is that I get free access to the gym.

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Whereas I have a home gym I invested in over 10 years ago, so wfh means I go to the gym during the day instead of at night.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

than local govts wont get any revenue from commuting and businesses, and ceos wont be able to be control freaks and lord of thier subjects.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If I was working again I'd rather work at the office. I wouldn't be productive working at home. I need accountability. Not everyone likes working from home

[–] Tahl_eN@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had the same assumption about myself before 2020. Turns out I'm way less distracted at home because I control the things that would distract me. So I'm much more productive. Was actually a huge surprise to me.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why do you even care? You don't get paid more if you are productive.

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[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

And the richies grab the scientists by the mouth and go, "Shutfuckup! Shutfuckup!".

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