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BREAKING: Israeli authorities have beaten Greta Thunberg, made her kiss Zionist flag (www.thecanary.co)

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[–] degen@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

I didn't realize internationals were involved in the flotillas and really thought the name drop made this the onion for sure

[–] billwashere@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

These are completely the justified actions of a state operating with the highest of intentions /s

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

Most moral army

[–] knowone@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not saying it's definitely the case but the conspiracy minded part of me can't help but notice the attack on the synagogue in Manchester was very conveniently timed around when the flotilla arrived in Israel. Could just be coincidence of course but we've seen what they're capable of making happen. This would be very easy for them. And this isn't to have any disrespect towards the victims of the attack, even if it was a false flag or whatever it doesn't make it any less of a tragedy. Plenty of Jewish people suffer generally because of Israel too

Edit: well guess I offended a bunch of people with this. Nice to see that we're being no different to reddit here and just downvoting people we don't agree with, even if that person isn't being shitty about the opinion they're expressing and isn't claiming it's true anyway, and not having an open discussion about the thing that's been said

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We have enough conspiracy theories right now. Let’s stick to the facts and maintain some epistemic hygiene.

[–] knowone@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So we just don't consider anything could be true unless we know for absolute sure it is? So we shouldn't even entertain the idea that Epstein didn't kill himself, as well as many other things? I understand that we shouldn't go about throwing out theories and believing them completely without some solid evidence, but I think the other extreme of "epistemic hygiene" hinders us too. Certain things could turn out to be true and us ignoring suggestions of that earlier on could mean we don't realise later. Again I'm not saying that the possibility I bring up in my original comment is likely or anything, just it wouldn't surprise me really. There's so many examples in recent years of powers distracting us from the bad things they're doing with other things

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Epistemic hygiene doesn’t require you to believe only things that are “absolutely true,” since literally no empirical claims have that epistemic status.

It does require you to proportion your beliefs to the evidence. Big claims require a lot of evidence. The idea that Epstein didn’t kill himself enjoys some degree of confidence (say, 75%) because of circumstantial evidence (not to mention motive and opportunity).

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Why are they quoting this activist calling her a "little kid" That's really insulting.

That this kind of thing is happening shows this is a military force of thugs with no strong leadership or discipline.

[+] guy@piefed.social -46 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

lol hard doubt

edit: ~~to all those who can't employ critical thinking, representants for the swedish ministry of foreign affairs met Greta Thunberg on Saturday and received no reports of violence. She says there has been too little to eat and drink, she suspects there's bed bugs and she stated that she had to lay on hard surfaces. Nothing about what this article states, so unless it happened right after the embassy left, this is bull and only meant ragebait.~~

edit2: I would advice everyone to apply critical thinking when reading this article. It is framed in such a way as to invoke rage in readers and is probably not true.
Swedish representants for the foreign ministry has met with Greta which stated that there was lack of food and water and that they have to lay on hard surfaces in addition to receiving harsh treatment. No mentions of violence.

Now harsh treatment could cover a lot, but the fact that she hasn't mentioned that they were inflicted violence is a pretty strong indicator that this is not true.
In addition, swedish media hasn't covered this story which I have no doubt they would pick up on pretty fast since the flotilla and the genocide is well covered in media. This would be headlines to say the least.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There are mentions of pictures, and she herself was aware such pictures may exist and asked whether they had been released. So, no, you’re misled. Forcing detainees through beatings and physical force into interacting with the Israeli flag is a common humiliation practice by Israelis if you know anything about them. It’s pretty much standard practice. They wouldn’t think twice about doing it to their newest victim regardless of who “she thinks she is”.

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

She's Greta. She would show her bruises to make the case against Israel. She'd never be silent if it was as bad as the article claims.

[–] knowone@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Have you considered that maybe she's very traumatised both physically and mentally at the moment and is recovering first before she steps out into the public eye again?

[–] guy@piefed.social 0 points 3 weeks ago

Yes but

Another detainee reportedly told another embassy that they had seen her [Thunberg] being forced to hold flags while pictures were taken

is not the same as

They dragged little Greta [Thunberg] by her hair before our eyes, beat her, and forced her to kiss the Israeli flag. They did everything imaginable to her, as a warning to others

I don't doubt she has been forced to pose with a flag and thus ask wether those pictures has been released.

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