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[–] shifty@leminal.space 152 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)
  • Wasps not bees.
  • The wasps probably won't be able to emerge if the concrete dust sets.
  • Imagine being entombed by your parents. Born in an inescapable coffin.
[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 79 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Born in an inescapable coffin.

Ah, so real life then.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, it certainly bears semblance to my first 9 months in solitary confinement, before the hag dragged me out from her wretched womb. Curse you vile woman!

[–] EditsHisComments@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, never heard them called mud bees. Only ever heard them as dirt / mud daubers, and they're very obviously wasps.

They don't hurt as much as you'd think, but you'll still feel it for a day or two

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

My grandma used to tell me they don't sting so I wouldn't freak out when one was near me. Little kid me was a gullible fool.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

They can sting, but they (anecdotally) sting less readily than some other species of wasps. I've been around them all my life and never have been stung. But, I've never intentionally messed with them. On the other hand, I've been stung by a couple other species that were far less patient with my presence in their general area.

[–] SolSerkonos@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm ngl I also been told that and believed it. I don't really feel very gullible since I've never actually been stung by one? Even destroying their nests doesn't seem to make them aggressive.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 weeks ago

mud daubers usually are as far from aggressive as yellow jackets are assholes.

[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Lol my dad did the same. I never got stung tho and avoided some anxiety

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Full of spiders.

I hate cleaning these up because they're fucking spider piñatas. Yeah the spiders are dead by then, but just, fucking eww.

So there are 2 on my porch that desperately need to be cleaned up, anyone?

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Bees are technically a kind of wasp.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If I am understanding the chart here correctly, bees are not a type of wasp. Bees, wasps, ants, and sawflies are all Hymenopterans, but distinct from each other.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That graph does contain bees among wasps.

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To be specific, bees are a "Cladistically included but traditionally excluded taxa" of wasps, since they are within Apocrita.

The common-language definition of wasp is literally "A member of Apocrita ... except bees (and ants)".
It's the same situation as saying a chicken is a dinosaur, and why the field often uses "non-avian dinosaurs" instead for clarity.

This wikipedia diagram from the Aculeata article is a bit more concise:

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Take now for example Stephanoidea, "a superfamily of parasitic wasps within the Apocrita". Clearly wasps, yet equally closely related to yellow-jackets and honey-bees.

Edit: mixed up Aculeata and Aulacidae. Edit2:

If you go further into Apoidae, even there you still find plenty more "clearly wasp" type species:

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Take Sphecidae:

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Or Philanthidae:

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All on the same level as actual bees (Anthophila).

I think also in terms of vibes it feels right to call bees a subset of wasps.

[–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Does it come with a cask of good wine?

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 48 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Just wait until they build one on the back of a snail.

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 29 points 4 weeks ago

For the people less chronically online than apparently @Triumph@fedia.io and myself. https://lemmy.ca/post/52674587

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That's a fun idea for a game. You're growing a bee colony that has evolved a symbiotic relationship with a species of snail. They feed and defend the snail, while they build the nest on the back.

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 27 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You should check out the game Wandering Village. Its not bees and snails, but you do build a village on a giant beast that you can feed.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 weeks ago

For a second i thought you mistitled Reus but fair enough its a different game and this concept a new genre.

[–] mr_satan@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That snail that will kill you on touch just got an upgrade.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

That reminds me there's a game called Shadows of Doubt! You are a detective in a dystopian cyber noir world where corporations run everything.

Anyway they just added a mode to have the damned snail always after you while you're trying to take on jobs and solve crimes

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 4 points 4 weeks ago

I love this game. I highly recommend it.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

How long do we have till they discover reinforced concrete.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

7years. Nuclear weapons by 11years.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

That’s a bit slow for a Factorio run, but impressive nonetheless.

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

Especially since they started with drones unlocked!

[–] Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 weeks ago

Hey, I love getting sidetracked!

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 weeks ago

Bee AI powered drones in 14 years

[–] RedSnt@feddit.dk 19 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Poor bees. That's got to be hurting them, right? Isn't concrete caustic?

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I imagine if it hurt, they would pick some other material.

They mix it with some material they produce, so it won't behave like pure cement. Also, after you mix it, concrete isn't caustic.

[–] RedSnt@feddit.dk 3 points 4 weeks ago

Good point.

[–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 2 points 4 weeks ago

Very, cement has a pH of around 11

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 13 points 3 weeks ago

The bees that live there:

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[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That's cool. Mud daubers are extremely chill and will only sting you as an absolutely last resort. They also are great at keeping the spider population down. Which I'm a little torn on because I love spiders since they eat mosquitoes, and mosquitoes can fuck off and die afaic.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait until you find thier storage area. It will be a rock that you overturn, or maybe a space between two boards filled with paralyzed spiders and other insects ... Google it if you dare.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

if you get too close, they will poke you with tiny bee spears too

[–] BierSoggyBeard@feddit.online 5 points 4 weeks ago

Those are wasps, buddy, and it's going to get worse.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

that's some hardcore Resident Evil shit.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 weeks ago

That’s awesome

[–] vodam@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 weeks ago

another bee W

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Typical mud wasps, a decade late to the crocs craze.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

enjoy the lyme. little dumbasses, suck my dick

- me who couldn't make a leanto in the forest because it's cold and there's bugs

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Metal bees.

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