That's because Germany is expected to still feel guilty about the holocaust even after almost all the perpetrators have died in prison, well the scapegoats did, Operation Paperclip ensured that most of the high ranking ones enjoyed a cushy life in USA so they are constantly made to feel obligated to support Israel, while other countries that have done similar atrocities are so easily forgotten, not a German fyi if you want to nitpick.
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They don't feel guilty, they're afraid of ever having to actually be held fully responsible. The colonization of Palestine was done with public collaboration with the Nazis, and Palestinians have no obligation to pay for Germany's crimes by surrendering their homeland.
Germany got a very sweet deal, the Jewish question answered itself and they washed their hands if it.
So the former Nazis feel (rightfully) guilty about their Genocide of Jews and the current Nazis say committing Genocide is part of the Jewish identity, so the former Nazis have to feel guilty for and thus support the current Nazis? /j
(Joke as in not a serious question but a cynical attempt at simplifying in a humorous way)
Again the former Nazis are dead, Germans today shouldn't be held accountable for their ancestors wrongdoing unless you'd like to accuse American's for their murder and theft of native American people and land, Turkey for their genocides, China for Tiananmen square while not that massive it was still in fucking 1989, i have more if you want, start looking at the real enemies and stop being distracted by the defeated ones.
I don't hold any individuals accountable for their countries past. I'm German Russian (as in my parents are both ex-soviets from Moscow, but I was born and grew up in Germany and still live here).
Why would I hold any Germans accountable for what their (great)grandparents did during their attempted Genocide against most peoples of eastern Europe and destruction of the USSR, as long as they don't expect me to feel sorry for the (Wehrmacht) oppressors, rapists, pillagers and thugs my great-grandparents rightfully shot and took as POWs to build Siberian land bridges and what not LOL.
Holding current generations accountable doesn't make much sense, but it is their legacy and how they deal with it is not crucial, but essential.
(Like Japan und Turkey also come to mind as strong negative examples; Japan much more so though)
I was more talking about societies from a macro POV. And there is a distinction IMO between a society rising from the rubble of a destroyed past (like in Germany, tho arguably the FRG never properly denazified) and still upholding that legacy and keeping it alive and well like in the USA.
The USA served as one of the primary inspirations of German fascism BTW, "Manifest Destiny" became Lebensraum, their concept of racial segregation was to be admired (and brought to its logical conclusion) and their exploitative industry to be emulated (said industry also funded the hitlerite fascists; e.g. Henry Ford was awarded the highest prize available to foreigners by Hitler himself)
The USA is built on the corpses of genocided peoples and as long as this grotesque concept exists in that form, justice will be waiting. The least they have to do is to give the land and equal rights back and establish commissions to remedy the societal legacy brought by centuries of racial oppression, reparations are not enough. (a lot of it applies to former empires and existing colonies as well)
Thank you, i've been in Germany for almost 8 years now, i'm from the Balkans and everyone here has been unbelievably friendly to me, so when i hear constantly Nazi Germany this, Nazi Germany that it annoys the crap out of me when most of those saying shit like that are from countries that have done similar shit.
The thing about Germany is, that it's past is unique in the specificity of an industrialized genocide; the Schoa...
Mentioning Tiananmen Square, an example of internal repression with a couple of hundreds to a couple of thousands estimated fatalities, in the same sentence as two cases of near complete genocides of other ethnicities is wild. Do you not see how distorted that is as a comparison? In that comparison, you're either trying to minimize the genocides of the Nazis, the Americans and the Turks, or raise the level of a case of internal repression with limited casualties to be comparable to massive historical crimes against humanity. Neither makes you look great.
I don't think it was meant as such rather as just another example of saying "look at the countries past, today's people are still responsible".
Why should any loss of life be less tragic? you then have an even bigger issue than me, because to you it seems it's ok to exclude a smaller genocide just because the Chinese stopped killing their citizens when it reached a few thousand, no loss of life should be disregarded just because the numbers didn't get higher, so their sacrifice is worth less because fewer died!??
I don't think you properly understand the word genocide and especially the weight of the Schoa; you can't compare industrial genocide and extermination with some political crackdown...
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