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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

It's best to raise it to 22, when they have some brain to work with, and cap it at 30.

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

As a young person that vividly remembers what I and people around me were like at that age, I really don't think that we should have been allowed to vote. Optimal age for maturity would probably be around 20.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Great. Let the red pill kids vote.

[–] golli@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Controversial opinion: I don't see a justification for ANY voting age.

For adults we (rightfully) don't make voting dependent on mental or physical capacity, being dependent on other people, and there also is no upper age limit.

So i wouldn't be opposed to allowing anyone elegible for voting to do so when he/she expresses the wish to do so.

[–] keegomatic@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That is just a very stupid idea. The best thing for all of us everywhere is for the most rational and well-informed people to vote. The fact that everyone gets a vote is unfortunate for all of us because that includes voters who vote against the public interest, but it is necessary for a free democracy. Children and even teenagers have simply not had enough time on this earth to make an informed decision. Even if you want to make the argument that some are informed enough, they are far, FAR fewer than in the adult populace. You do not want to broaden that window.

[–] golli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is just a very stupid idea. The best thing for all of us everywhere is for the most rational and well-informed people to vote. The fact that everyone gets a vote is unfortunate for all of us because that includes voters who vote against the public interest, but it is necessary for a free democracy.

Seems like you are arguing for meritocracy here, which has it's own set of problems.

Even if you want to make the argument that some are informed enough, they are far, FAR fewer than in the adult populace. You do not want to broaden that window.

Honestly, this sounds exactly like an argument that could have been made in a debate about whether or not black people or woman should be allowed to vote.

I think you said it yourself, democray needs to endure that sometimes people just don't vote in the same way or for the same reasons as it suits ones own views.

[–] keegomatic@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I think it’s pretty obvious what the difference is between literal toddlers getting to vote (read: parents getting multiple votes) and black people/women getting to vote. I’m not arguing for meritocracy or even what the voting age should be. I’m arguing against the idea that there should be no minimum voting age.

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago

I would make a counterargument and raise the age of being legally an adult to 21, or at least do not allow anyone to drink alcohol and do not allow anyone to drive a car before turning 21. There is a lot of tragedy that could be avoided just by doing that.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's always the far right that's trying to lower the age. I think that says enough.

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[–] thedruid@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (17 children)

That is beyond stupid. Hell our brains aren't fully developed at 18 , at 16?

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