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The team behind “Superman” is responding to the backlash after director James Gunn said the DC tentpole is the story of “an immigrant that came from other places.”

When asked about the reaction to his comments, James Gunn explained that the movie is for “everyone” and that he doesn’t have “anything to say to anybody” spreading negativity around “Superman.”

“I’m not here to judge people,” he told Variety at Monday night’s “Superman” premiere at Hollywood’s TCL Chinese Theatre. “I think this is a movie about kindness and I think that’s something everyone can relate to.”

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 330 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (13 children)

I mean... He's literally an alien that came here illegally.

Is MAGA stupid? Don't answer that, it was rhetorical.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 99 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Asmongold. Enough said. Also, most conservative men are opposed to bathing. Something something washing assholes is gay.

They are stupid, useless, and gross.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 68 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You mean the guy who lives like a pig and has cockroaches climbing on his shirt while live streaming his newest rage fit should not be listened to?

Seriously, what is wrong with his viewers? The content is shit brought to them by someone living in his own literal shit.

[–] jonesy@aussie.zone 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I thought you were exaggerating so I googled it and what the fuck man.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Did you read about where the dried blood on the wall by his bed came from?

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't understand why anybody watches a dude who lives in filth and go, "Ah yeah this guy has good opinions on things!"

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 29 points 3 days ago

Those people usually see him and think "He's just like me!"

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[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 80 points 3 days ago

Bible: "Jesus says to love your neighbor."

MAGA: "Why do you have to make it political?!"

[–] neoman4426@fedia.io 22 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Technically he was "born" in the US in most versions going back a few decades. His pod was retconned from one they put a whole living baby into in earlier stories, to an artificial womb "birthing matrix" that combined DNA. Was even a storyline that dealt with if he was eligible to be President based on that (may have even been the reason for the retcon, can't remember). So he'd be an "anchor baby" to use their racist term, and someone Donald wants to invalidate an amendment with an executive order for

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago

Nah, that was true from 1986 through 2009, but it went back to him being born on Krypton in "Secret Origin." The standard born-on-dying-Krypton story has persisted through New 52 and Rebirth.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

Is thst still canon? I know it was officially changed at least by New 52 to be baby Kal-El in the ship from Krypton again. And then Post-Crisis canon was merged with New 52 Canon with Rebirth and Doomsday Clock, but I haven't read a comic in years now. No idea what they settled on as his new origin. Either way though, non-lawful entry or born here with non-citizen birth parents, he would be considered an illegal or stateless immigrant under the current government. There is no getting around that Republicans.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 110 points 2 days ago (2 children)

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From a 1949 book cover distributed to schools by DC.

MAGA is basically opposed to truth, justice, and the American way, aren't they?

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[–] PoopSpiderman@lemmy.world 106 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Everything upsets MAGA. They’re petulant children in desperate need of a nap. Sadly, they are using that energy to ruin lives, and destroy a country.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 79 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Conservatives unable to grasp basic plot points of a story thats been around nearly 100 years. Color me unsurprised.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 21 points 2 days ago

"When did Star Wars become woke?!"

they don't get Jesus message, even though they say Jesus is the most important thing in their lives.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 73 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But they’re explaining only half of the plot an illegal alien is assimilating and it’s making a specific billionaire very upset he can’t continue to exploit his people

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

All I am gonna say is xenophobic Lex Luthor is always the best written Lex Luthor

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Largely because it's a bit valid to be concerned that the indestructible alien could decide he's bored serving the world and just take it over.

Xenophobic Lex is just a compelling villain, a bit like doom. Someone who has a sound reason for their actions, but usually takes really questionable routes.

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[–] Sickday@kbin.earth 71 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I hate the director for deciding to associate a fictional character with societal issues.

Has there been any movie where fictional characters aren't associated with societal issues? I ask because I'm pretty sure every single movie does this.

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Superman is woke and also "antifa".

{shudders, and clutches pearls harder}

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[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 25 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Show me a piece of fiction which has nothing to say about societal issues and I'll show you a fucking boring piece of fiction.

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[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

its like people that get angry at rage against the machine for singing about politics.

... that is the whole point.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They claim that they don't want movies talking about politics, but I bet they'd have no issue if the movie was anti-immigration

[–] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago

people who say they don't like politics in videogames actually like politics even more, they just wish they were seeing different politics

-HBomberguy in his Fallout New Vegas video

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[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 3 days ago (5 children)

How can you not know Superman's origin story? Apart from the comics its been retold in every major movie version too. He literally is and always was (weird retcons aside) an immigrant.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

Excuse me ~~Jesus~~Superman is white, therefore American!

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 21 points 3 days ago

A literal alien.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago (11 children)

I'm pretty sure I knew through popcultural osmosis before I ever saw any of the films

Some people weirdly don't connect fictional scenarios to real life analogues though. Like in the Oz books, a princess is kidnapped and forced to grow up as a boy. Some people don't see that as a transgender character because it's a fantasy scenario. Some people don't see Superman as an immigrant because their brains just don't connect a science fiction situation with an alien to immigration

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Party of "fuck your feelings" huh? MAGA biggest cry babies out there. Guess it makes sense.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

MAGA Outrage Over Director Saying Superman Is an Immigrant

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(We're about a decade too late, and our engorged trolls are now our leaders, but still...)

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean he was literally created by Jews during the time of Hitler as an inversion of the Nazi ideal of a "super man" who would go around beating up Nazis. His origin story is basically just space Moses, and his Kryptonian name "Kal-El" is formatted like the name of an angel, containing the name "El" meaning "God" (compare MichaEL, GabriEL etc.) Superman has been anti-fascist and pro-minority since his inception.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Nobody cares about objective reality anymore. Once we started letting people live in their own worlds of "feel facts" without consequence, lest someone throw stones at our own escapism cognitive biases, we ceded control of the world to the loudest and most hateful people.

There is no convincing people of anything anymore because they can just close their ears and go somewhere more comfortable. If they face no repercussions and can not only get praise for being hateful but even raise money and become celebrities, what do we really think is going to result from explaining things anymore?

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I can't help but feel like when Hollywood switched to ME villains instead of nazis, it really had a large sociological effect.

Not that it was intentional propaganda, just that 20 years of "anything to stop poor brown people in the desert" had an effect different than "anything to stop the genocidal fascists".

[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It's because the scary Boogeyman has to be relevant. USA needed people to get onboard with current wars, not old wars.

There were also plenty of movies about the scary Russians too in that specific political time.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

How could someone take umbrage there? Like... read his origin story. He was born on Krypton. He got dropped on Earth. He was adopted by folks in Kansas. If I told people I found a child who drifted across the Rio Grande and adopted him as my own, we'd all agree he was probably from Mexico and not a native born citizen. But apparently him drifting in from SPACE changes the narrative?

[–] jorymo@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

But he's a white space alien

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hmm, an endangered child's parents send him in a craft to be found and adopted by others, assuring his safety. You'd think that would resonate with MAGA Evangelicals, who should recognize the story of Moses.

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[–] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 36 points 2 days ago

All these things haven't suddenly become woke, YOU JUST BECAME A RACIST BIGOTED XENOPHOBIC ASSHOLE!!! AKA MAGA.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 34 points 2 days ago

They really do live in their own little bubble huh? Like dude is a literal alien, and they think he is a home grown hero.

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

DCU heads in their best J. Jonah Jameson voice:

FIND ME A SINGLE TWEET THAT MAKES A CONTROVERSY OF THIS MOVIE!! WE NEED FREE PUBLICITY DAMMIT!!! IT WORKED FOR DISNEY, IT WILL WORK FOR US!! GET ME ~~THOSE PICTURES~~ THAT TWEET!!!!

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Dude is from another planet but magat get upset he is called an immigrant.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Lex Luthor: Make America Great Again! Krypton has not sent us their best or finest. Kryptonians are all rapists and drug dealers. Also, I am looking at stripping Bruce Wayne and Diana Prince of their citizenship because they say mean things about me.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

“We don’t go to the movie theater to be lectured to and to have somebody throw their ideology onto us.” Jesse Watters added

People like him is why AI slop movies are going to be successful. They just want to watch pretty pictures and see the American flag waving at the end, not be intellectually challenged and entertained.

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Science bless you James Gunn. Keep fighting the good fight.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Fillion’s response is gold.

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They were hoping to see a movie about the Ubermensch, not this woke comic book fake news!

Nah jk they don't read.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 22 points 2 days ago (9 children)

They don't want Superman; they want Homelander.

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