I mean if Cyprus and French Guiana can join so can Canada if we can meet the requirements. Itโs a political alliance of values.
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But then we would share two borders with the USA :/
That would be the first step in claiming back what once was ours ;)
French Guiana is only part of the EU because it's part of France, and even then it needs plenty of exceptions to make it work.
Cyprus was already aligned with the rest of Europe in economic laws.
Canada would need to redo half of its laws to join the EU, and Canadian companies would either need to produce two versions of everything or drop the US market altogether.
It's more realistic to aim for a close bilateral treaty than for membership, at least for next few decades.
Yeah, these opinion polls really should be more taken as a desire to move closer (as the article says). I doubt the people voting actually know everything that joining the EU would entail, but it's still valid as a general "getting closer to the EU".
Yeah, but it's a nice dream.
How is Cyprus controversial as an EU member? Because it's far enough to technically be Asia? Still very much European values, language, history etc. It's also only a stone's throw away from the nearest Greek island
- Tax heaven (together with Ireland)
- Part of the island occupied by Turkiye
And Malta, Luxembourg, Monaco, Andorra, Jersey... Etc. Basically any small nation
Some people claim that โa country cannot join if theyโre outside the continentโ
I mean french guiana is literally a part of france. Its an overseas territory so its handled as an island or whatever not a colony. The most disgusting thing isnt that canada is in north america but that the eu would need to border the usa...
I mean poor Norway, Finland, Poland and The Baltics already have to deal with Russia.
I love these "nearly half" declarations of support the media likes to gin up.
So..."less than half", then?
It's more about the trend. Last year almost no one thought it would be a good idea. So the implications is "shortly more than half might want to join the EU" or "Canadians are approaching the majority threshold"
It's also a bit useless to just give the one number and not the complete results.
This could mean 46% in favor, 15% neutral / undecided, 39% against, which would put the overall sentiment in favor of joining, or it could be 46% in favor, 54% against, which is a completely different situation.
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Just re-read the article, I have missed the numbers, sorry.
So it's 46% pro, 29% against, which puts the sentiment clearly to pro....
Well, you are not wrong. But if you think about it it's still a pretty significant percentage considering Canada is one ocean distant from Europe, and has always had historically relations, economically and politically with the USA, obviously given the fact they share their only border with them. So in my opinion the number gets more weight, maybe. Probably some years ago it was much lower, or they didnt asked themselves the question at all.
I welcome the Canadians into the European Union!
Is what I would say, but I really, really, REALLY donโt want a border with the US. Russia alone is bad enough.
The US already has military installations all over Europe. It wouldn't change much.
As an American, I endorse the idea. It would make it harder for Canada to be attacked, or worse, destroyed by Dogey America. Plus, it would allow the Free States of America to have a potential ally or trading party, better means for non-coms to flee from the conflict, and so forth.
It also works out for Canada, since that means having stronger trade connections with Europe. Considering that Dogey America is going to be an annoying prick and no longer a viable partner, having a solid trade network would help keep Canada prosperous.
I believe it will be a positive alliance for both Canada and the EU. Canadians are welcome!
Okay not a direct comparison but if I was playing a Paradox grand strategy game and the neighbor country started getting all fascist / authoritarian, I would want to group with like minded nations for protection. Hey we're already in a defense treaty with them why not make it a more inclusive type agreement? Personally I always felt culturally closer to the UK (yes I know not there anymore) than the US and thought many of our policies mirrored the US due to location and held us back.
honestly anything but being close to the us. it's bad enough they share a border.
As a EU/French I vehemently oppose that idea unless we get to see the Canadian mounted police to parade here on the Champs Elysรฉe, this next 14th July :p
Let's start with Schengen zone membership and see how we feel after that. The currency would be a hard sell.
Maybe an EU adjacent status like Norway would be sufficient. But yeah, probably best to just wait and see. I'd appreciate closer cultural ties too. More sustainable basis for a long-term partnership than just business stuff.
The UK was previously a member of the EU without ever having adopted the Euro.
True, but all new members sign an agreement that they will eventually join the eurozone. It's not enforced and there is no pressure to do so, but on paper they agree to it.
Step 1: Be USAmerican, non rabid Trump sycophant/cult member variant.
Step 2: Attempt to gain legal residency in Canada
Step 3: ยฟ?ยฟ??ยฟยฟ??ยฟ?
Step 4: I am now European.
I would like the option. Being an American citizen is now like not unlike a soiled piece of toilet paper: Unpleasant and not worth keeping. After all, Project 2025's backers don't give a damn about citizenship or American society.
Ok here's the plan:
Move to Minnesota.
Canada joins the EU.
Minnesota joins Canada.
Probably not likely to happen or work, but uh... fucking who knows these days.
Go for it Canada and the EU should send an invitation. Perhaps they should start with EEC membership and later receive full membership. MAGA would shit and f-them.
Itโs been a movement here for over a decade now, surprised support is so low
Just half?
I appreciate the thought and the vote of confidence. Unity against the US would be nice. But, I'm afraid of the US influence in Canada. It's bad enough in the EU, but Canada probably is worse.
My conditions in order of importance, if I had any power at all, would be (and maybe Canada already has these):
- no "winner takes all" or first past the post anywhere - single transferable vote or ranked choice voting
- separation of church and state
- wealth tax aka "tax wealth, not work", it'll pay for a bunch of the below
- free public education
- universal healthcare without stupid deductibles
- the ability to live without a car in any place with more than 5k people i.e public transport FTW, high speed trains, buses, metros and trams, fuck cars
- opensource in all public services
- no deals with the US defence industry (although the EU council just made idiotic concessions)
- house the homeless
- state funded TV
Those are off the top of my head. Given more time, I'd probably come up with more, but I think those are the basic things I'd care about.
Edit: Yes, I'm aware most EU members don't have this, but Canada could be a lighthouse, guiding the rest of the members. It would probably see a huge influx of Europeans if those things were to be implemented.
So most countries should be thrown out of the eu as we don't fulfill these?
Canada is well on our way. Lots of support for proportional representation voting, separation of church and state yes (Canada is much less religious than the states except maybe Alberta), ways of taxing the wealthy through capital gains tax etc, education so free up until university and then tuition is lower for Canadians and federal student loans are at 0% lending, universal health care no dedications already in place. I think Europe might not understand how vast and far Canada is so public transportation can be really challenging but yes cityโs have ok public transportation and better would be great. I donโt know about opensource or defence contracts so I wonโt speak to those. Better housing options for homeless would be great. And we have state funded TV, CBC which weโre very proud of!
I for once welcome our Canadian friends wholeheartedly!
Just a step on the inevitable road to one world polity. We should really be working out a roadmap to a world where everyone is a citizen of a worldstate with freedom to move, travel and trade freely regardless of where they were born. Basic rights should be protected everywhere by global enforcement, Borders should be administrative niceties and people should be free to migrate to areas which reflect their social and religious preferences in a global freemarket of societies where the most beneficial policies result in people voting with their feet.
If Canada joins EU that would make it the union less a European union, not saying I would mind that but we're gonna need a better name. Maybe invite Australia & New Zealand as well. Need to be quick though, before UK snatches them up.
Hear me out, wild plan: why not free the russians & add that as well.
canada should replace israel in the european broadcasting union instead