It doesn't matter. There will be a vote of non confidence and we'll go into a federal election as soon as parliament reopens.
Edit: so I just learned today that he had a constitutional obligation to trigger an election.
this post was submitted on 18 Mar 2025
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I don't think the jouse will sit again. He'll go to the GG and ask for parliament to be dissolved. Why have the government fall when he wants to go to the polls anyways?
I edited my comment. Please take another look.
I see that. But I think the point stands; a no confidence motion would make him look weak and provide opposition talking points. Better to just dissolve the house and get on with it
Good point!
Sure, but technically he doesn't need to run in that election.
Normally when a mp quits there's a partial election. No?
By-elections, yeah. When one quits or dies or somehow leaves an office empty. That means that even if there's no immediate election, there will be one for Papineau to replace Trudeau. Also, if there isn't an election called right away, most likely another Liberal will quit in a riding where Carney will be elected easily.
But! AFAIK he could also just choose not to be an MP. He won't, but I think technically he could.
He absolutely could remain PM without being an MP but I believe he then wouldn't be allowed to actually sit or speak in the House which is obviously not ideal.
Is sitting or speaking in the house really such a big deal? Think about all the republics where there's a president who isn't part of the legislative branch. Does it hurt Macron? Sheinbaum? Lula?
I mean, question period is fun to watch, and it's an important element of Westminster style democracies. But, would it hurt the PM not to be there? If the PM was giving a speech at an international summit on Ukraine at the same time as question period, which one do you think most news stations would cover live?
Especially when the PM's party has a majority, does the PM really need to be there? Unless there are people from the PM's party defecting, any legislation the government is pushing is going to pass. The PM him/herself doesn't need to be there to ensure it passes.
It's really a quirk of history that the PM is both the head of the legislative branch and the de facto head of state. Before the various reforms of the Westminster system, the monarch was the head of state and the PM was the head of the legislature. The king used to take a much more active role as the head of state. But over time the role became more ceremonial and the PM gained more power. Technically, the king is still the head of the Canadian armed forces. But, it has slowly become a purely ceremonial role.
I'd argue that head of state of a country the size of Canada is a big enough job that it could keep someone busy without their also needing to be the head of the legislative branch. By tradition, PM is also the lead MP, but would it really hurt them not to do that job too? Would it be better or worse for the country if the head of state focused on head of state things rather than split their time between head of state things and head of legislature things?
I don't think it will change, and I don't think it necessarily should change. It's just interesting that the PM being an MP is just a tradition, not a rule.
I think in the short term he'll just keep the status quo, if for no other reason than there's a shit ton of stuff that needs to taken care of NOW.
When the writ drops and a timeline is established he'll run in the federal election, after most of the planning is already completed.
I know what he'll probably do, but it's interesting to think that it's not strictly necessary that he actually becomes an MP.
The PM isn't an MP, unusual, but
My name isn't 'unusual'. You wanted a semi-colon or a colon in there to encode a different sentence than the one you did.
Semicolons; mysterious.