The saddest part of this post is that th title has to stipulate that the disappeared is a US citizen. Because so many now are willing to accept that disappearing non-citizens is just hunkydory.
this post was submitted on 25 Jun 2025
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For me the point I want to make is that none of us are safe. We need to protect due process for everyone. Yes there are a subset of people that don't care about the gov. deporting non citizens. If they see it's happening to citizens, maybe they will start to care, maybe they will see how wrong it is to violate the rights of immigrants. I dunno. Like how do you reach these people to show them how wrong it all is?
Don’t go to a second location with someone who makes you uncomfortable
You may disappear, you’re trusting this person or people who make you uncomfortable with your safety.
Fight for your life.
If you’re gonna lose that fight, drag one with you.
As a practical matter, most or all of these people are wearing body armor. It isn't full coverage, but it would make shooting them effectively a great deal more difficult. They also operate in large groups, which makes attacking any one of them a lot more dangerous.
The first civilian to shoot at them will almost certainly be killed within seconds. Anyone nearby is also likely to be hit, either accidentally or intentionally. Uninvolved civilians anywhere nearby are also likely to be hit. The agents are unlikely to care about their backstops or about collateral damage.
Any attack on possible government agents that is not part of a well-planned group response, using appropriate weapons, is going to result in civilian casualties and is unlikely to have any effect on the agents. That is not to say it couldn't be done, but a few people responding with concealed carry weapons are not likely to succeed.
The human bite force is enough to easily remove a finger, it takes 33 pounds of force to crush a human trachea, and it only takes 7 pounds of force to rip a human ear clean off and/or to pop an eyeball out.
Not related to what you're saying, just a big Mythbusters fan is all.