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Florida congresswoman blames left-wing fearmongering for the reluctance of hospital staff to give her the drugs she needed to end an ectopic pregnancy that threatened her life

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[–] mcv@lemm.ee 113 points 3 days ago (2 children)

what I went through wasn’t an abortion

You're ending a pregnancy, right? That's all an abortion is: you abort the pregnancy.

Gold medal for mental gymnastics there.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"My abortion was different"

— every religious fundamentalist ever

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Weird how hypocrisy is correlated with conservatism.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 104 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

But Cammack, who opposes abortion and co-chairs the House pro-life caucus, told the Wall Street Journal she blames messaging from pro-abortion groups for delaying her treatment, which is not banned under Florida’s restrictive statutes, who have created fear of criminal charges.

She... Uhhh.. Oh. She's a moron. A hypocrite and a moron.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 68 points 3 days ago

The only moral abortion is my abortion.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Let's all take a second to note that the outrageous hypocrisy that is the core of this story was not once challenged by The Guardian.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Which is why I ignore their constant pleas for money. They can be objective, but I’m tired of news organizations sanewashing this shit.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago

If my eyes roll any farther back I’ll be in the Middle Ages.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

She's a murderer. Lock her up.

/s I guess but it's their rules so maybe not?

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Florida law allows abortion in the case of ectopic pregnancy or other situations where the mother's life is in danger. If the events she's presented are true it's hard to think other than that the hospital staff were not clear on the law, and no doubt public discourse (which naturally centres around the strictest laws) has had an effect on that.

But it's also possible that the "reluctance" was just a delay during which her doctors were getting the necessary two written opinions that it was necessary.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bullshit. They spent that time:

  1. Doing the rest of their job, caring for all the other people
  2. Talking to legal and collecting required paperwork to support the legal case that the medical case is legal
[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And you know that how, exactly?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I suppose I don’t have any evidence, but think about it a little …

  1. Do you really think doctors have the extra time to dedicate an afternoon to doing paperwork? What about your experience with medical offices led you to expect all this free time?
  2. Do you really think doctors are deciding a contentious legal issue on their own? Do you understand why hospitals and other corporations even have a legal department?
[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
  1. I don't think reviewing tests which indicate an ectopic pregnancy and writing that a patient has an ectopic pregnancy, that an ectopic pregnancy is a medical emergency, and than an abortion is therefore medically necessary, takes an afternoon. Doctors are busy, and this does take time, so this is a possible - even plausible reason for her to have thought they were dithering, but I also think that medical staff are usually communicative about what's going on.
  2. Certainly they are not, but I think in the period before the doctors go and talk to the lawyers there is ample room for confusion caused by public perception.
[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wait, WHAT. They need two written opinions backing up that it was necessary?

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Probably male doctor opinions only. OBGYN optional if they are white.

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In the Florida law, yes, if it's beyond the (impractically low) gestational age threshold.

This is not that surprising given the position of pro-lifers who think that life begins at conception. The UK just progressed an assisted-dying bill which would legalise the ending of the lives of terminally ill people; even with their consent, two written opinions are needed (in the bill, which is not yet law) to do this.

But yes, it's a lot of hurdles for something that should in general just be available as a medical procedure.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

The part I find surprising is that dealing with an ectopic pregnancy is very time sensitive and very unforgiving. If you wait too long, it ruptures and your patient crashes and dies, and that's that. It's a bit like "well, we haven't stopped you from intervening with an aortic aneurysm, you just need two supporting opinions first lmao".

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

This has classic "look at what you made me do" energy.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

I had to check if this was Onion

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 17 points 2 days ago

File this under: never expect someone who is misled to learn the right lesson, ever.

[–] Buske@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So has she been arrested yet?

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago

Perhaos you don't understand how the law works, she's a republican and thus currently immune.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Cammack then spit on the reporter's shirt, and then proceeded to run over a small child and dog in the parking lot, pausing to reverse and do it again.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

I have to wonder if the Doctors weren't trolling her a bit. She had an ectopic pregnancy at 5 weeks. Not only is the abortion necessary, it was within the six-week limit, so it was perfectly legal on all counts. So why would they claim they were confused about the law?

I suspect they wanted to teach an arrogant Florida Republican a lesson about politics encroaching on the medical decisions between a doctor and their patient, and made her jump through a bunch of hoops first, just to make her feel the fear, anxiety, anger, and frustration of the average citizen whose medical care is being dictated by MAGA Nazis.

Remember, we are only hearing the side of a professional MAGA Nazi, so she's a proven liar.