Do you people ever think that Wayland is being sorta shoved down our throats ?
PipeWire wasn't
this post was submitted on 19 Jun 2025
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Yes and no
This only applies to the gnome for now.
But it's happening in KDE as well
Not as of yet
KDE still has some bugs to work out
wayland is a major overhaul that massively improves things dev-side, security-side and hardware-support side, pipewire is not nearly as important of a change, and pulse wasn't nearly as horrible as x11
No it doesn't, at least not yet, it's half-complete & it's being pushed on us a little too aggressively inspite of the fact that again it's not fully mature & calling X11 horrible is a bit too dramatic on your part.
I can't put it in words but it seems a bit odd.
Half complete is a nonsense claim, all that's missing is better accessibility and some xdotool stuff. I'd go so far as to say that it's x11 that's half complete.
x11 is horrible... no way to support mixed refreshrate/dpi displays because it's fundamentally against the design, as well as no model whatsoever for security... yeah, wayland needs accessibility sure but at least it isn't fundamentally broken.
any app being able to keylog and screenread is my standard of a horrible model.
if you don't need accessibility stuff or an extremely small subset of xdotool functionality (see kdotool) it's better and safer in every way.
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