All "christians" in America are MAGA. If you're reading this comment and you're offended because I've insulted your religion, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
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You should spend some time talking to Unitarian Universalists.
I love UUs. Their existence is so weird.
Lots of denominations have split or merged through the years. For instance the Methodists split from the Episcopalians and later merged with the United Brethren to form the United Methodist Church, which very recently split into the Global Methodist (hates gay people) and United Methodist (gay is OK).
But the thing that's different about the UUs is that the Unitarians were a Christian denomination and the Universalists were not. It's a merger of Christian and a non-Christian sects that worked out really well.
It's neat.
I love being a UU and am extremely benefitted by having my congregation & a personal connection with God, after +20 years of being a hardline atheist. I needed my own space & affordance to explore, redefine terms, and do my own spiritual learning.
One weird outcome for me was reading the Bible on my own. I don’t consider myself a Christian (ex-Catholic / ex-Atheist), but I was getting frustrated with MAGA’s association with Christ while being so misaligned with the teachings. I know enough now to quote my favorite passages, because if I ever get in a pinch in this country, I’m going to quote the Bible.
Every MAGA person needs to read Matthew 25:32 several times, along with James 1:19 & James 2:25, and especially John 13:34. You get to heaven by helping the poor, helping the foreigner, helping those in prison, not by just claiming you follow Christ. If your actions don’t come from love, then they don’t follow Christ. It’s mind blowing to me that this regime is aligned with Christianity in public opinion.
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I'm fine with them too. And a lot of UU people support Israel in all things. A lot don't.
Unitarian... unitarian...
Getting some Dead Space vibes here
Unitarian Universalism, UU, or Unitarians.
Altman be praised
(I'm not suggesting that unitarians are a space death cult, it just reminds me of unitology)
I'm down, but it would require reintegration into the shit stain that is organized religion. This is also coming from an ex minister. Once you're behind that pulpit, your words are law. Getting into that place where a large congregation would actually listen to you would most likely require some moral compromises.
Are you queer? You are irrelevant.
Are you not white? You are irrelevant.
Are you sexualy active? You are irrelevant.
Are you pregnant? You are irrelevant.
Are you compassionate? You are irrelevant.
Your job is to interpret the Bible in a way that people enjoy. You reinforce their ideals. I have no idea how to pull everyone I knew into a 180°.
How do you propose we change these brainwashed peoples' minds? If you have legitimate theory, I'm listening. All I can think of is showing up to church and talking to people, but it SUCKS there.
One example:
"ABORTION IS MURDER"
"It can't think yet"
"IT HAS A SOUL"
How do I respond to that? What can I possibly tell a person that's that nieve that they're being sexist?
I witnessed people use their time to speak against the church while they were on stage. They get pulled off and disappeared (not killed, blacklisted). A lot of the people there are dependent on the church, so they can't speak up. So even if you have the stage, you maybe have 5 minutes. Change the world. Go for it. This is coming from the experience of an ex minister at the Salvation Army.
Respectfully, UU is very different than this, in my personal experience. It’s precisely because UU doesn’t have strong dogmatic ties that I like it. The 7 principles are pretty standard moral positions. Sacred texts inform practice but do not dictate it either.
I'm not a maga thanks
The "Appeal To Heaven" flag, a popular symbol for Christian nationalists that was waved by January 6 ~~rioters~~ insurrectionists was raised over the Small Business Administration headquarters last week.
FTFY
Yeah I cannot stand it when people use that term for the terrorists that attacked our country on J6. Terrorists is probably the most correct term; insurrectionist is the compromise, but calling these assholes "rioters"? WTAF.
Like they just happened to get carried away during a "peaceful protest" and suddenly summoned the gallows, the noose, the zip-ties, had stashes of weapons, comms, prior intel, and not to mention the bombs they placed...
Exactly
Trump fired them up and sent them down there specifically to "fight like hell"
The most extreme groups were given heads up in advance and came prepared for it
There is in no way this was ever a peaceful protest
This alone could have convicted Trump had he not dodged prosecution by stealing the 2024 election
He didn't dodge via election (can't say whether stolen, though he certainly doesn't seem to be one who'd hesitate). But he avoided conviction because of a the foot-dragging, possibly compromised attorney general. 4 years and virtually nothing done in the prosecution. Ridiculous.
These investigations would have been allowed to carry on after Trump took office?
Jack Smith's cases against Trump are winding down
Special counsel Jack Smith begins winding down his other Trump case
Special counsel Jack Smith expected to wind down Trump prosecutions: Sources
No, Trump should have been convicted and sentenced before the election. The mishandling of secret information should have landed him in jail.
Wasn't that the same flag Alito got caught flying at his house then blamed his wife for it?
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/22/us/justice-alito-flag-appeal-to-heaven.html
These lunatics will kill us all for their rapture fantasies.
Can we start calling their theology mental illness yet? They clearly need help.
This made me think that perhaps the reason they want to ignore mental illness as a thing is because they realize how crazy it sounds to believe in an invisible sky man who judges you when you die.
it's such a shit flag too, i can't get over just how bad it looks. it's like someone thought very hard to try to come up with every bad move you can make designing a flag.
Take it down.
Well that’s a lawsuit the Freedom From Religion Foundation will fight.
Evil might not be Jesus. But evil is taught by using Jesus. Just like everything else is raped and wasted by this culture. The devil is American.