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TL;DR: Mozilla is now enforcing data collection as a pre-requisite to access new features in Firefox Labs. This is backed by the Terms of Use that Mozilla introduced a few months ago.

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[–] berber@feddit.org 43 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

look, i do agree with a lotnof the criticism, but can we please stop with these weird headlines?

being spyware is independent from being open source. you can be totally open source and spy on you, and closed source software can be conpletely privacy respecting.

[–] infeeeee@lemmy.zip 21 points 16 hours ago

It's just the regular monthly anti firefox FUD.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 29 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

What are firefox labs...?

If it's experimental features there is actually an argument that telemetry might be the a big point of them offering those features in the first place.

I think locking it sucks, they could still get valuable feedback from community discussion without telemetry, but I'm guessing those features being there for testing and experimentation and therefor needing telemetry to evaluate them is the reasoning for the choice... :/

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Data collection might be helpful for product development (Google and Microsoft keep telling me that "sharing" is "helping" them too), but...

There is no good argument that Firefox features must be gated behind mandatory telemetry.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 19 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Weslee@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Been using LibreWolf since the tos changes a few months ago, barely notice a difference

[–] confusedwiseman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 16 hours ago

Libre wolf has been great. On the rare chance I need ungoogled chromium, it’s because it’s a terribly done site I’m forced to visit.

[–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago

For want of a $100 per year Apple developer license fee, LibreWolf doesn't work on Silicon Macs still, so I am forced to use WaterFox and a few other off-brand Mozilla flavors.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago

This is part of a significant Overton window shift.

In 2017, Mozilla fans criticized the addition of data collection by default.

Then we slowly slid towards acceptance of data collection by default, with people saying "stop complaining, you can turn it off manually."

Now it's 2025, and you can't use some features of Firefox unless you opt in to data collection.