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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago

I remember how trump demanded Volodymyr Zelensky should thank him too.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly one of the most infuriating things (though far from the most damaging thing) that Trump is in the process of doing is making Gavin Newsom into a legitimate 2028 presidential candidate.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Which would end in a Democrat L most likely.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 6 points 2 days ago

Which is fine for the ruling class

They just get to pass different policies over different terms that's all, they always benefit and the status quo remains.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Honestly, we're in such uncharted waters that I couldn't venture to guess. It may well be that Trump will be so unpopular in 2028, and his anointed replacement so uninspiring, that the MAGA demonic pact breaks. This has precedent; pretty much nobody who tries Trump's tricks in anywhere but the deepest of red areas gets any traction. It seems like it might only work for him.

Then again, it's also entirely possible that he comes out of this whole thing smelling like roses (I can't even venture a shred of a guess as to how, but he's weathered some really unpopular press, so who knows) and so whoever he puts his political weight behind goes the distance. In that case, especially if his replacement is a "moderate" MAGA (the Overton Window is stupid far right at this point), I think Newsom gets absolutely trounced in 28.

All of this assumes that Trump doesn't succumb to his clogging arteries, that he doesn't have Newsom killed, that he doesn't "cancel" the 2028 election altogether because of "something something rigged something something," that he doesn't actually just get himself back on the ticket again, that the Dems don't win a supermajority in 2026 and give him the heave-ho...a whole lot of things can happen between now and then.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah those are all really good insights.

[–] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 day ago

Newsom isn't likely to make it to that election, with Dump's violent rhetoric

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget before this happened Newsom was doing rightwing podcast circuit talking about how conservative he really is.

This is like Elon and trump fighting, two assholes the country would be better off without

[–] HuskerNation@lemmy.zip -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And Dems think he should be the nominee lol. I mean if you want to lose sure go with that option.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

And Dems think he should be the nominee

What?

The billionaires want him to be the nominee, but even with their money he can't win a fair primary.

That's why there's the propaganda push to make the new DNC seem responsible for the bullshit "moderates" have been pulling with the party since Carter.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Trump is entirely delusional