Fuck Proton and their Trumps-ass-kissing CEO though.
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What European email services do you use?
Please recommend other interesting email services by your experience.
I have switched from Google's Gmail to ProtonMail and kMail. I really like both, kMail (by Infomaniak) have very similar app interface to Gmail so you will get used to it very fast and also have big storage for free and very good offers for paid plans 👍🏼
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Oh nice hadn't heard of KMail and I'm trying to degoogle. Proton's fine but the owner is another tool so options are nice
Oh it's KDE even better
KMail is not a service by KDE, you probably confused it with KMail, the mail client by KDE. It's a service by Infomaniak.
It was also pretty hard to find information about it, searching for "ikmail" will get you there easier. I also found out it's technically not available in Canada yet, although I'm sure this shouldn't be too hard to circumvent.
Yeah, I'm not sure why the creator of the image used KMail when the name is not even used by Infomaniak themselves.
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You don’t need a client app for mailbox.org? I use it just fine on any standard mail client.
That's what they mean, it doesn't have its own client.
Ahh I see. Tbh I see that as a definitive plus though, it’s email that uses email standards.
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I switched over to Proton a few weeks ago, so far so good. They had my name available so no more weird convoluted email address anymore yay!
I would highly recommend buying a domain name and use that for email, will be a lot less pain if you have to change provider again
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mailbox.org has a web app, so no need for a client app.
And Posteo also supports POP3, IMAP and SMTP, so you can use every mail client with support for it.
I'm in the US and wanted to switch from Gmail to a privacy focused European email provider, so I paid for a year of Posteo and so far I've been really happy with it. The service is excellent, it's inexpensive and their ethics/values as an organization are wonderful.
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No Nazi supporters please
"Needs client app" is a funny way of saying it "supports open protocols as first class citizens".
Been using mailbox.org for a couple of years and I'm quite happy with it. Don't know what "needs client app" is supposed to mean though. If you don't want to use a mail client you can use the web interface. I've used maildroid on Android with it and when it was discontinued switched to Thunderbird, both work fine with mailbox.org.
There's one tiny minor annoyance, they somehow automatically create a new "archive" folder for every year that the web interface uses when you hit the archive button but in your mail client you gotta change the preferences manually once a year. Don't know if you can change but it's such a minor inconvenience I never bothered to check.
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Disroot is based in the netherlands i believe.
From their page:
“Disroot is a platform providing online services based on principles of freedom, privacy, federation and decentralization.
No tracking, no ads, no profiling, no data mining!”
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I tried
- Proton - too expensive
- Tuta - too limited
- infomaniak - i like it, but also limited
Created new domain name in cloudflare and got free account at zoho. It's free badic account, but with a symbolic gesture of 0.9 euro a month, you also get smtp, IMAP etc... and it plays very well with cloudflare!
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Proton, no thanks to the Government of Putin supporters. Tuta could be the winner for me.
Switzerland supports putin?
Proton also donated money to Ukraine in 2022. Some people simply live on a separate reality.
Switzerland supports putin?
I dunno man, Wikipedia says otherwise.
The country has a history of armed neutralitygoing back to the Reformation; it has not been in a state of war internationally since 1815[5][6] apart from the Sonderbund War(Switzerland civil war), joining the League of Nations in 1920[5] and did not join the United Nations until 2002.[7] It pursues an active foreign policy and is frequently involved in peace-building processes around the world.[8][9]
On February 28, 2022, Switzerland imposed economic sanctions on Russia and froze a significant amount of assets held by Russian civilians and companies as "punishment" for the invasion of Ukraine. Some described this as "a sharp deviation from the country's traditional neutrality."[10] According to Swiss president Ignazio Cassis in 2022 during a World Economic Forum speech, the laws of neutrality for Switzerland are based on The Hague agreement principles which include "no participation in wars; international cooperation but no membership in any military alliance; no provision of troops or weapons to warring parties and no granting of transition rights".[11
Some of the takes in here are bonkers.
I made the switch from gmail to Tuta. It's very good. Has desktop app as well as mobile. Highly recommend.
Mailbox.org costs 2gb 1€ in light plan
Buy a domain and just use a ISP of your choice, don't lock in again with another domain not under your control.
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It might not be for everyone but you could grab a domain + webspace for like 2€/month.
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What does "only web app" mean for posteo? Can you not use it with a standard mail app?
It just doesn’t have its own app. There is no custom, useless Posteo app.
Which nobody needs, since there’s IMAP and SMTP, so you can use any normal Mail app.
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