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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 123 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This Thread-

"We should improve gaming somewhat"

"Just don't buy the game!"

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here's the thing, there are already vendors doing largely what. Indies generally:

  • cost less
  • release in a playable state
  • take risks on new ideas
  • don't have microtransactions

But people usually talk about big AAA games in these complaints. Buy indies and we'll end up with more variety.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I buy mostly indies now, usually on gog or itch too.

But sometimes on steam if it's multiplayer.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Well, yeah.

Vote with your wallet. I improved gaming by not buying a Switch 2.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That's sort of how it works though isn't it? If games at $80 are too much then less people will buy, profits will drop and publishers will either lower prices, or vanish and get replaced by ones that lower prices.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 122 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I'm not going to bother reading the article, because you can both be anti-capitalist and participate in the system as it exists today. The developers can't pay rent with good vibes.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago

Also the developers don't set the price

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A healthy way to look at things, but also the guaranteed way to maintain the status quo. It's funny how that works.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago

They can take action in other ways, including publishing anticapitalist messages in their game.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 43 points 1 week ago

Capitalism deals with industry being owned privately.

If you want to complain about Microsoft being a publicly-traded, private-sector company rather than a worker cooperative or part of the government or whatever, okay, at least I can see where you're coming from.

But a socialist economy is perfectly compatible with having high prices.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm sure if it was up to the developers and creative minds behind the game this would have never been an issue. Sure, things like inflation have made the process of making games more expensive, but it's not like the extra money is going to actually go back to the developers. I'm so sick of this "games are more expensive to make" bullshit while they treat their employees like garbage and make them work ungodly hours. Micro$oft makes more money in one day than most of us or any of the developers will ever see in our entire lifetimes yet they need to lecture us on why we need to give them more money.

To be clear, I hold no grudge against the actual developers of this game. The first one was pretty decent and I'm sure this next one will be relatively good as well. But remember that we are talking about the company that forced Arkane to make Redfall when they had no desire to make it, and after it failed fired everyone at Arkane Austin and closed the studio. This isn't about making their money back to cover the cost of development, it's about making as much profit as possible with the least amount of effort possible.

Games continue to get cheaper to make as middleware improves and advancing hardware lessens the need for optimisation. If companies choose to spend more on games despite this then that's their problem.

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Microsoft doesn't expect anyone to pay $80. They expect people to sub to Game Pass instead.

[–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago

That's even worse.

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Capitalism is when pay money for things. I am very smart."

Jesus Christ, I am begging people to actually learn what capitalism is before writing takes likes this.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

These days its increasingly 'capitalism is when you pay money for the chance to have a thing'

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[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, for starters, games are going to get more expensive.

That is their prerogative. Mine is not buying overpriced games.

That's always been the case. They can charge whatever they like, I'll only buy if I think the price is worth it.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Of course you can - if an adequate share of that money goes to the devs, the only issue is the money that doesn't go to the devs. And they very likely don't have much control over that money

[–] katze@lemmy.cafe 17 points 1 week ago

I guess the author learned that being anti-capitalist is somewhat trendy and couldn't resist writing this opus. But this has nothing to do with the game or games in general.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That’s a lot of money for any game, let alone one that will also be launching on Game Pass and, like its progenitor, is smaller scale than other open world RPGs of this ilk.

It's this thinking that led to Starfield and Redfall being priced at $70 and Hi-Fi Rush priced at $30.

I could bitterly rationalise it if this were the release date trailer for the next Fable and I discovered Playground Games was charging me $80

Why? Playground hasn't even made a game in this genre before. Why do you expect that to be more worth $80 than the company that's been making acclaimed RPGs since its inception?

[–] commander@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Play that years down the line. The first one was OK but I paid like $15 for it with the expansion. Obsidian hasn't had a clear jump in quality since the MS purchase. Possibly even signs of writing regression with Avowed so can't imagine much hype for this game

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Grounded is fun, and 2 is right around the corner, though they did (and plan similarly for 2) to release it in phases in early access and gather community feedback at every step

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

$80? No problem! 🏴‍☠️

They aren't gonna charge me shit because the first one was so dull I only got halfway through it.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If this game is as good as it looks Bethesda has to really step it up on Fallout 5 or big daddy Microsoft might give the IP back to its creators.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The Outer Worlds 1 was a fantastic palate cleanser after Starfield.

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

this handful of uncooked milled oats was a fantastic palate cleanser after half a kilo of shit

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nah, I loved The Outer Worlds. It gave me exactly what I wanted from the setting, it made me laugh, and it wasn't bogged down in bloat by trying to be any bigger than it ought to have been.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago

Yeah I have to disagree, the first game was lifeless and dull imo

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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Oh, it just modern Obsidian, no one is going to buy it anyway.

Came and went.

[–] Gronk@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago

It's crazy to think that a handful of people who have floated around Obsidian/Interplay/Black Isle have created (in my opinion) some of the best games to have ever existed.

You put a name like Chris Avellone or Tim Cain onto a project and I'm going to pay more attention to it than any AAA with millions put into trailers and other bullshit to sell you down the river.

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

ITT: gamers are basically forced to buy this game.

[–] bizza@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

Avowed was cool but not really worth the 70. I doubt TOW2 is worth 80, and specifically especially because Microsoft/ActiBlizzard is just following the Nintendo train, which is what everyone knew was going to happen with triple A studios.

[–] zymagoras777@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

..and that's why you support decent indie developers and pirate this trash

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 5 days ago

Just don't play it

Since you know, it's trash

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"You've had the best, now try the rest!"

It is called "a practical joke".

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