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Hope they bring back the 3.5mm jack
Hopefully it isn't 700โฌ with no headphone jack and spotty support this time...
Bring back jackie or we not talkie!
It kills me that they know they won't have big market share anyway but then go and give people one less reason to go with them. Same with shiftphone.
That and morons arguing against a jack as if they couldn't keep using their Bluetooth stuff all the same.
I donโt need a headphone jack I need degoogled OS.
Should but to be honest and I will get flak for this but USB-C headphones are really good. I really want a bigger battery even if it's swappable and a good update sched.
Now, get this: a phone that has both a USB port and a 3.5mm jack ๐คฏ
God damn it i just bought the 5
Fairphone has a quite long software support. Your phone won't be worse with something new. But sometimes they slow with new major updates
thanks for your sacrifice.
but that isn't a problem with faifone, your phone will last a long time
I bought the 4 a few months before they announced the 5. I felt betrayed because I expected them to announce a fairphone 4+, like they did with the 3... I was expecting them to make phones of theseus that you can upgrade for years but that's clearly not what they are going for :(
I hope that there are components from the 6 that can be used to upgrade the 5
Yeah, same. I have a FP3+ and was hoping to wait until 4+ came out, but I guess not...
Same, but it will be some time until it gets released. The 5 is supported until 2033 I think.
Same. If FP6 has a smaller form factor and an amazing camera I will be very annoyed.
This is the time for Fairphone.
I recently was looking at upgrades for my s22 and everything so incremental to the point where it feels like smartphones have peaked couple years ago. It's a great opportunity for Fairphone to catch up now that the moat is mostly gone.
I haven't had a great experience with my fairphone 4. app/phone crashes, ghost touching, now they announced that they're skipping support for Android 14, technical support has also been rather unresponsive. to top it off, they are usually very late with their security patches and apparently their verified boot implementation is horrible, they use the aosp test keys (which are publicly available) to cryptographically sign their firmware, which completely negates the point of the thing. I guess that's on par with the software support in general...
so yeah, can't recommend the company as is unfortunately ๐
Agreed; I don't hate my FP4, but it's definitely the least polished phone I've ever owned, and it wasn't cheap for it. The ghosting was a nightmare, but they fixed it (eventually) with a software update...which begs the question why it shipped with a bug like that in the first place.
The company has been around far too long to get away with putting out buggy devices.
And that's before we get to the failure to update FP4 (let alone FP3+) to Android 14, despite being well within their support period. In theory FP4 will be going straight to Android 15, but FP3+ is effectively grounded at Android 13; which considering their stated goal of reducing e-waste, is really not a good look.
Glad I wasn't tempted by the 5, in that case!
I expected them to release new phone in 2028 at earliest
They've been on an every-other-year-in-September-ish release cadence since the 3 came out in 2019, so it's been expected for a while that 2025/09 would be the release of the Fairphone 6. Glad to hear they're on track for that since I've been holding off on replacing my phone in anticipation of the 6.
I mean for something as sustainable as fairphone it doesn't make sense (at least to me) to release new device every year. I know it's to keep things fresh and to remind everyone that they exist (and that's great!) but yearly releases remind me of consumerism like in apple's way, you know "get a new iphone" way. Good thing FF4 is still a good phone but there will be people who bought FF5 and will buy FF6 because we humans like new things
Counterpoint, if you don't create a new device at least once every 2 years there will be people who disregard your latest device in their purchase decision because it is so old.
At least used Fairphones may become more affordable this way.
yeah, and it's crazy how conditioned you can get by consumerism. I bought the Fairphone 4 soon after its release, and the moment I got it, I pretty much stopped following any smartphone news (before that, I used to be a frequent /r/Android poster and commenter a few years ago, and I've always been up to date on the latest releases and features), as I was perfectly content with what I got, and knew that with the extended warranty I was set for the next 5 years.
but the very moment the 5 was announced and the 4 wasn't the Latest Bestest Thing, I started being tempted to upgrade. no particular reason to it, as the biggest change would be an OLED screen and that just isn't that big deal for me, except for the promise of a bigger newer number. I never upgraded and over three and a half years later, the 4 is still good enough for me, but something's telling me the announcement of the 6 will be tempting me again, haha. I'll probably try and wait for the 7, though.
Hoping to see better support for Linux. The Fairphone team collaborated on the Ubuntu Touch port for the Fairphone 4, but didn't do the same for the Fairphone 5. It would be great to see VoLTE on Linux on the Fairphone 6.
Please register with the FCC!
What is this, they need licensing to be sold in the US or to be used?
My phone is nearing end of support next year and I've been considering the Fairphone for a while now. I really wanna like it but I've seen a lot of people having issues with their software. Hopefully they'll get better at it, well see.
FP3 user here... 0 issues.
Well, to be 100% honest, I replaced most of the original apps, so maybe they were the problem?
There was an Android update which did something to the camera? (I think), but it's all fine now
FP3 then FP4 user here. It's a solid OK phone. Camera has always been just OK and has always been the thing the bothered me the most.
I did get ghost touches now and then. The software updates are fine for me. I don't care about living in the edge of udates.
lol, that article is brutal
"Yeah, it's probably not gonna be anything interesting and we hope we don't have to show up in person, because of traffic."