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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I want a society that is a democratic communist society ruled by a democratically elected council. None of this single person has ultimate authority, because that's the worst weak point. All laws apply to the leaders as well as the masses. Money should either be abolished, or capped. No individual should be able to acquire enough influence that they can dictate anything about others lives. Democratize and co-op all workplaces. All basic rights of humans are absolutely not allowed to be profited off of.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

In our current system, no individual should be able to acquire enough influence that they can dictate anything about others lives.

Humans are fallible. Any council can be corrupted or dominated slowly, especially as long as currency and power corrupts and hierarchies can exist. Democratic socialism is a utopian idea of a fallible system, when what you are really asking for is the abolishment of corruption, prejudice and greed itself, the cancers that ruin otherwise harmonious societies.

Until a form of government arises that rewards the participant for seeking purpose rather than fame or reward, we'll just be replacing fractured systems, destined to fail, over and over and over again.

but, per my own personal bias, I don't believe people are inherently good enough to act that way. I believe we will destroy ourselves before we ever get there. The individuals that would dominate the next system of government will be the ones holding the pen to craft it, so it goes...

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The Baha'is have a system that kinda works like that. They don't have clergy, the have democratically elected spiritual assemblys. The rule is that no one that wants the position can have it. The communities elect people that have proven they can lead with humility.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

I think we would do well with elections based sortition.

For any given elected position, you select 12 candidates at random from among the whole population. You give them a chance to decline the run if they want. If they decline to run, then you draw more names until you get 12 candidates. You then run an election with those 12 people on the ballot.

You essentially replace the primary process with a random lottery. With a pool of 12 candidates, it would be very rare to not have some representation among both the left and right for any given election. And people would still get to choose the final winner. But the real sociopaths, the people who want power above all else, who will sell their souls for it? They're simply extremely unlikely to win the lottery to become a candidate.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 points 6 hours ago

Your ideal society in the best case scenario is... 500 or so years away!

[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 minutes ago

I wish there was a test.

Not a bullshit CosmoBuzzfeed quiz, but an actual "if you answered A on these three questions, you tend towards MarxoCapitalist. Here's a community full of people who mostly agree with you about political stuff."

We'd still have Home and Local and All, but it'd be nice to know who my people are instead of needing a college degree to navigate the bullshit everyone says about everyone else.

I don't think anyone knows what socialism is.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 1 points 5 hours ago

Personally? For me, I don't care what kind of leftist you are.

For now, we are united against one singular goal, the total annihilation of Donald Trump's fascist regime of religious cultists and billionaire oligarchs.

Before we throw a single punch at one another, we have to solve this first. We'd all rather eachother's ideals than him if given the choice.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

Anarcho-transhumanist. I believe that you just can't trust humans to govern each other, so the best solution is give them all the tools to survive independently.

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