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I am trying to use my old laptops for self-hosting. One has a 6th gen Intel Core i3 (4GB ram), the other has an 11th gen Intel Core i5 (8GB ram). I have previously tried both ubuntu server and desktop but couldn't get it to work well. For the former I found it difficult to remote ssh and the latter I had difficulty installing Docker containers. (I'm not very good with the command line)

I would like to find an OS that is easier to setup with less of a neccesity for the command line (I would still like to learn how to use it though, I don't want to get rid of it entirely!). I've heard of CasaOS, is that a good option? It seems quite easy to use. What about other alternatives?

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[–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not trying to be unhelpful. My advice would be to steer into the terminal. Bite the bullet. I use arch and alpine for my servers but Fedora would be fine (but SELinux can be a pain with bund mounts)

Probably just go with Fedora with btrfs for snaps. It has lots of support and is a common choice for servers

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How do you troubleshoot Alpine? The one time I tried (later needed to use Debian because the OS was not supported) I could almost only find ressources in conjunction with containerization.

[–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly, I've had little trouble. The Gentoo Wiki and Void Handbook have a lot of overlap with OpenRC and musl, respectively.

While the documentation could be improved, the overall experience has been quite good and very stable.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Maybe just a matter of skill issue with another distro (faimily).
Oh well. Maybe another time ;)

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah ~~kind of~~ totally agree. Trying to self host without using the terminal would be like trying to drive a car without touching the steering wheel with your hands. It’s possible but dangerous and cumbersome.

Don’t let it scare you. Get something installed to let you build some VMs to play around without worries (Virtualbox, VM Workstation, parallels), and install a distribution like Debian, Ubuntu, Mint and start to play. To self host all you really need is learning some basic file manipulation (move,copy,remove), how to edit text files (vi,emacs,nano), and the basic directory structure. That will get you 90% of the way there. When you see things like awk, sed, grep ask an AI to explain it, they are actually useful for that. These sort of commands start getting into advanced things like output redirection and regex which can be EXTREMELY confusing. Heck I have a CS degree, been in IT for almost 30 years, and I’ve been using Linux since the mid 90s and some of that still confuses me. So basically don’t fret if it’s too confusing, you are totally not alone. Play, screw up, try to fix it, curse, read a lot, try again, realize it’s toast, start over. Honestly I think I just described my job 😂

[–] happydoors@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I went with Truenas Scale and was pleasantly surprised it needed no command line kung fu

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TrueNAS scale seems like the perfect option, the only downside is that my old laptops don't meet the hardware requirements

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like RAM?
Not that important. I ran it with ¼-½ of the recommended RAM (1GB RAM per TB)

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I tried installing an ISO and it black screened. weird.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

I honestly would use a headless Linux system with docker compose. You can find premade docker compose files.

[–] actaastron@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago

FWIW I've been using Ubuntu desktop with CasaOS for a couple of months now to host Nextcloud, Jellfin, Immich and a few other bits and bobs with absolutely no issues at all so far!

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

(I’m not very good with the command line)

Me either so I take a lot of notes about commands and command sequences. Also, I find that Grok is pretty decent at explaining commands. AI is a wonderful tool, but you also need to do your due diligence in ascertaining whether AI has given you the correct information. I would not copy/paste random commands into a production server, but rather I have a small test server for that kind of stuff. Once I have the command, tested, and understand the command, I can then use that in a production environment.

In as much as I love a good WUI, you will have to learn some cli, it's just inevitable, especially in a headless environment. It may seem daunting at first because there are literally thousands of commands and command sequences. I honestly doubt if even the geekiest nerds on the planet know all by heart. For each command sequence, there are probably hundreds of ways to compose the same command. I would admonish you to download Notepad ++ and start keeping notes on the commands you use. Later on, the fun part is looking back on your notes to see all the commands you now know and what they do.

Core utilities (like ls, cd, cat, etc.) from projects like GNU Coreutils provide around 100-200 commands. Additional tools from packages (e.g., grep, awk, sed) and system utilities (e.g., systemctl, iptables) can add hundreds more. On a system with many packages installed, running compgen -c | sort -u | wc -l in a Bash shell might show 2,000–10,000+ unique commands, depending on the setup.

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Writing down different commands on a note seems like a good idea. Thanks!

[–] orosus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
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