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Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton's trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

every time I hear anything about this shit company, I keep thinking it's valve's linux compatibility thingy and I get real confused about why people are hating on it.

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[–] deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I understand. Why use resources on a platform that is so badly designed for new users that isn't used but to post manga and linux memes from tech nerds? If this is your reason to drop Proton then you're priorities seem a bit off imho.

[–] throwback3090@lemmy.nz -1 points 3 months ago

No the reason is they are pro-nazi

[–] noname_yet2077@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago
[–] SexDwarf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Honest, stupid question: Why exactly is this such a big deal to so many of you? (I don't use Mastodon.)

[–] azalty@jlai.lu 1 points 3 months ago

Sad news :-/

At least we have !protonprivacy@lemmy.world but they're not on it I believe

[–] Gorgeous_Sloth@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

This is a genuine question : how Proton stopping using Mastodon for communication make them bad ?

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

I mean, it makes sense for a company to focus on a platform with a large user base. Social media managers aren't free.

[–] phar@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was using proton pass but I would like to move on. Is there a good open source password manager that is secure and hosted locally?

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I use KeePassX. there are android, linux and macos clients. i sync them between devices securely using Mega

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

KeePassXC is the maintained version, so use that instead.

[–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wish VPS providers didn't commonly block email ports. Self hosting seems like the only way to stay in control

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

It's understandable though, they just don't want to deal with email spammers.

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Ugh, I use proton for VPN and email. Any suggestions for decent VPN at this point?

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't have any complaints with Nord but other people seem to.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Nord has no port forwarding. No deal

[–] plixel@programming.dev -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've used Mullvad for a couple of years now and they're great.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Unless you never want to torrent, I would not choose mullvad. Torrenting requires port forwarding if you properly want to give back to the community, which mullvad doesn't support.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

AirVPN is great, allows port forwarding, 5 devices, and they run very good black Friday specials every year if you decide to buy it after trialling.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 0 points 3 months ago

Funny how they didn’t make actual post on Mastodon, but just silently edited their profile to say they left Mastodon? That’s pretty cowardly.

Yet another reason to not like Proton.

[–] zarlin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (6 children)

At least they are still on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/proton.me

But a true fediverse presence would be better

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[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m a proton user but I’m out of the loop. Please paste link or give me the tl/dr?

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Whoo boy. The Proton CEO posted a deeply troubling remark praising trump and republicans as the champions of the little guy, and lambasted democrats for being in the pocket of big tech. This, understandably, seemed rather... icky to a great many people, who dislike the idea of the service they trust for privacy kissing the ring of the Fascist in Chief/Putin's Towelboy/Elon's Hamberder Carrier. This might have been more palatable if it was made clear that Proton itself does NOT endorse the policies of Melon Husk's puppet administration and the MAGAt Horde, and that the original post was made by the CEO in his capacity as a private citizen, and not as the CEO of Proton.

So when, in the face of backlash from the federated community, Proton decided to just leave the fediverse, rather than clarify its position, but stay on Reddit & the Xitter, using the half-baked excuse of "it's too expensive for us to cross-post on this completely free system", people, understandably, took this to indicate that Proton, previously one of the most trusted privacy companies, may not be as independent as its swiss headquarters leads one to believe.

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Hugely disappointing! Can’t believe in a single thing!

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Makes me glad that I procrastinated on switching over, I guess I’ll just ride out my current NordVPN subscription and switch over to Mullvad?

Almost makes me afraid to ask the community, what exactly is wrong with Nord? 😅

[–] padge@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They've done other things, but the reason I don't use Nord is that they had a breach where an attacker had physical access to one of their servers, and they tried to sweep it under the rug rather than notify users.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fair cop; I guess there’s always risks in renting space in a data centre (physical intrusion), and that response definitely isn’t the best.

Not enough for me to be a deal breaker currently, but will definitely switch when my plan expires.

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[–] Supernova1051@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I've been giving them the benefit of the doubt, but I'm kinda done with them. Anyone have any suggestions for a mail provider? I'm not yet willing to self-host that.

[–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 0 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Posteo unfortunately doesn't support custom domains.

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[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've been happy with mailbox.org. I left proton after the boot licking. I had been a paying customer for years.

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But are they on Mastodon? This is a very important factor for my purchasing decision.

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