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We're consolidating our social media presence due to limited resources and no longer posting on Mastodon. Follow us on Reddit

Please tell us that you're not moving away from Lemmy/Mbin too. There's a gigantic tonedeafness to asking your supporters to use centralized social media at this specific time that's hard to accept you're not realizing.

(quote from Proton's mastodon.social account info - there wasn't even a post made about it)

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't they realize that more privacy conscious people, which are their customer base, are more probable to be on the fediverse than Reddit? Especially in the current social media and political context.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All that matters for decisions like this is the quantity of customers (actual or potential).

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In that context it makes sense.

I read another comment saying that the Trump tweet thing blew up in their face on Mastodon and they don't have any moderation over who posts what. Unlike Reddit.

Remember when Reddit explicitly banned companies from moderating their own subreddits? The original point was that the subs should be for the community, but having a corporate moderator would only serve to suppress public dissent. Reddit eventually pulled a hard 180, and now it’s the expectation that a company moderates their sub.

For instance, if a sub was created for a specific TV show, the TV network wasn’t allowed to moderate it. They could have official accounts, but they wouldn’t be mods. Because if fans didn’t like something in a show, they had the ability to voice those opinions. But now there’s a heavy incentive for corporate mods to keep the company image clean, by scrubbing criticism.

[–] Beagle@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's disappointing that they prefer X, Bluesky and Threads over something like Mastodon.

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] Polderviking@feddit.nl 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree the optics of this aren't great, but the real question is if this higher follower count on Mastodon translates to post engagement...

My brother once bought me followers on Instagram as some kind of joke and that did exactly squat for reach as far as i could tell. Not saying Proton bought followers on Mastodon, but I am saying followers don't necessarily mean anything.

Mastodon peaked a couple of times but then usage dwindled because people started using Bluesky or returning to bigtech platforms because their buddies didn't move over. I suspect a fair amount of these mastodon subscribers are stale accounts and the Proton team just aren't seeing the engagement they have on the other platforms.

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

They don't make exactly the same posts between the accounts, but comparing similar posts around the same time

https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113679615854243807

31 comments 156 boosts 254 favorites

https://www.threads.net/@protonprivacy/post/DDpVjPooFxM

2 comments 2 boosts 45 likes

https://bsky.app/profile/proton.me/post/3ldnvyof5zk2u

60 comments 159 boosts 729 likes

While their bluesky is significantly higher, it's important to note they elected to keep their threads account which has a small fraction of the interactions of either

[–] Polderviking@feddit.nl 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

This is a fair assessment, though isn't all the meta crap connected?

With which I mean don't Facebook posts sync to threads and such? I know my Instagram posts synced with Facebook when I still had Facebook.

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 1 points 15 hours ago

From what I can tell they don't have a Facebook page, I don't believe posts sync between threads and other meta products regardless

[–] Coldmoon@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn’t think they were ever here?

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@ProtonPrivacy@lemmy.world

is either an official account or impersonating an official account.

[–] troed@fedia.io 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I agree. Can't look more official than that.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 1 points 1 week ago

Lemmy is linked on their site too

https://proton.me/community

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

After the stunt they pulled, praising Trump and the Republican party, I seriously think Proton is just a wolf in sheep's clothing. They are like Apple: telling people what they want to hear about privacy, and we all swallowed the pill.

Unfortunately Tutanota, the only other free, privacy aware service, really just locks you in and is thus worse as a choice.

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[–] Polderviking@feddit.nl 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Proton did not praise Trump. Their CEO praised a choice Trump made. You're obviously free to consider Yen's word equal to Proton's word but this isn't true for everybody.

They are like Apple: telling people what they want to hear about privacy, and we all swallowed the pill.

Unlike Apple, Proton's software being open source (and by extension their promises) can be vetted by anybody with the skills.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Yens words were then published on the official proton blog and taken down after backlash as a "mistaken communication". Believe what you want.

Also, their servers are closed source. Having an open source client is cute though 👍

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] Polderviking@feddit.nl 2 points 11 hours ago

As encryption happens client side I think its a little bit more than cute.