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[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (21 children)

I mean conservative estimates have over 20 million people using game pass and the steam deck is getting long in the tooth technology wise - valve has also made it very clear there are no plans to release a new one any time soon, if ever.

Also, Ilove my steam deck so much, but it is not the most user-friendly for newbies sometimes. You have to be comfortable troubleshooting occasionally, especially if you ever plan on using desktop mode. Which is not required of course, but you are leaving a lot of the appeal of the device in the first place on the table if you don’t use that ever.

I fucking hate Microsoft, I am over the Xbox ecosystem, but ultimately this will be a very pick up and play device. It will likely sell at least half decently (likely underperform their estimates as always). I think anybody saying it’s doomed to fail however is honestly not up to date on the current state of gaming.

If I had to ignorantly shoot from the hip, I would say they will probably sell ~500,000-1mill units

[–] malwieder@feddit.org 3 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

Well, at least the base model Xbox Ally has essentially the same SoC as the Steam Deck. The Z2 A has 4 Zen 2 cores and 8 RDNA 2 CUs. It will be configurable up to 20 watts TDP instead of 15 on the Deck, but that's it. So much for "long in the tooth technology wise".

Sure, the Z2 Extreme variant will be more powerful, but it'll also be in a different price category (800-900,-€).

And in terms of user-friendliness: the Xbox Ally will run Windows. It won't launch into the regular desktop shell (by default), and it won't have as many services running in the background which might help with performance and battery life, and you'll probably be able to update drivers and Windows through it. Maybe it will have some preconfigured scripts/shortcuts to install Steam, Battle.net etc. But that's it. Expect to fall back to the desktop mode (or open a browser, terminal and Explorer window in the new gaming mode) for anything more advanced like installing emulators.

In terms of pick up and play this won't be much different to the Steam Deck, with the one exception being Game Pass - but even then don't expect any of the more demanding titles to run well.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

There is no way they are charging €900 for this. That’s absurd. If you’re right I’ll come back and praise you lol

[–] malwieder@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The ROG Ally X's MSRP is 899,-€ and that's what it currently costs here in Germany at least. It was as low as 799,-€ though recently, but now it's back up. Considering this "Xbox Ally X" is the successor to it, I don't think it's unrealistic.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Alright I’ll admit when I’ve got it wrong, I’m looking at the price and I remember the base ally at £600-700, forgot the extreme and all that stuff at 900.

[–] malwieder@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

You're good, no worries. We're all just speculating anyway, there isn't really a right or wrong.

I'd just be surprised if it'd come down in price one model to the next considering prices for tech in general. Maybe Microsoft made a special deal with ASUS, but I think the base model with the Z2 A is what they'll use to rectify the price of the Z2 Extreme model.

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