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Drawing a line on a map and saying Jews go this side and Muslims go this side is still racist as fuck.
It's literally how we got countries like Greece, Turkey, Armenia, Serbia, Croatia, etc. Christians on this side, Muslims on that one. Orthodox on this side, Catholics on that one. Even Belgium basically become a country when the Catholics decided to secede from the Dutch Protestants. Racist (for some definition of "racism" that includes religion), sure. Special to Zionism? No.
If the Serbians of 1990 (or the Greeks of 1920, etc etc) had a superpower behind them bankrolling their every war, supporting them diplomatically, protecting them at every turn the way the US does for Israel, the situation would like pretty much the same. Again, if you contextualize it in the Balkans/Near East, Zionism is really nothing special.
not really. with those countries it was through warfare during the collapse of a larger national/nation like entitiy. Israel was a mixture of a gift from the british and a betrayal of palestinians to palestinians, backed by rich people buying land from landlords who didn't give a shit.
Then through the six day war, israel did their own warfare (supported by much more potent powers than the palestinian side), and grabbed everything they wanted, but gave it up during the ceasefire , ceding back to...
Which isn't want happened with the said countries
Unfortunately for these poeple groups, they did not recieve the same support israel did during their territory bid/larger national/nation like entitiy's collapse.
To be a bit more constructive than what I wrote in my previous comment: ethnicity was very often defined using religion in the Balkans:
The only Balkan people that seem to have somehow miraculously overcome the religious fragmentation of ethnic identity are the Albanians.
Sure thing, I haven't replied to your other comment yet because it's a lot to unpack and understand, and it's not convenient yet; but with this post you bring up some more salient points I haven't considered. My POV has been more the breakup of Yugoslavia, which felt like a conflict over territory by groups of people, wheras Israel's was more of a "straight lines drawn on maps". I was not aware of the specific historical motivations and perspectives for the yugoslav wars.
You might want to refine your other post a bit. I'm still interested in responding to you, just later. Thank you for having the self reflection to analyse your previous statements and provide clarifications.