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You might want to check Cyberpunk again.
Cyberpunk is still utter shait when compared to GTAV and still delivers on less than half of what they promised. If they hadn't become the de facto hardware showcase for NVIDIA the game would have long been abandoned. NVIDIA's marketing development funds sponsoring half of "gaming" youtubers did more for CDPR's reputation than anything they added to the game. It was never going to be better than mid, and it's still mid. Ai is still worse than GTA3.
Please explain to me how GTAV was shallow. One can absolutely dislike the caricature like style of world building however, calling it shallow borderlines illiteracy. Especially when defending cyberpunk, there's no underlying message of any sort in Cyberpunk. It's like, shoot the baddies, corpos bad, mohawk and neon good.
I can tell you from the top of my head Cyberpunk issues that haven't been solved to today or promises that haven't been addressed:
Ai of NPCs Ai of police - both still much worse than even sleeping dogs... The promised branching narrative never happened, it's wildly linear. No functional karma system. The writing of the main characters, the beginning is promising with the
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death of JackieThe world is basically a ubisoft map minus interesting, organic things to do in the open world The driving is horrendous in cars, unbelievably bad in motorbikes The characters are wildly one-dimensional and villains are absolute moustache twirling levels of bad.
They failed on over half of the promised features to this day. It's not a bad game, it's just mid.
The fact you unironically use this to detract from GTAV, a game released during the PS3 era, while ignoring the exact SAME issue for Cyberpunk, a modern RPG advertised as the epitome of choice, should inform anyone to the validity of any of the opinions you hold in this matter. The only staying power of Cyberpunk is people benchmarking with it.
You literally contradict yourself trying to defend Cyberpunk...
So you play it like a linear shooter, which is the exact opposite of what was advertised. Mayhap you are part of the population Kojima also mentioned as fundamentally unable to process anything that isn't "shoot the baddies".
On that subject, the story of Cyberpunk is pretty shallow. There's one good arc, the tutorial, after that it reads like it was written by a completely different team and the original writing team was relegated to one or two side quests.
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Very classy, one can Tell Cyberpunk is one of your favourite games.